As organizations flatten, AI adoption accelerates, and expectations on leaders continue to rise, the manager role is changing fast.
Malvika Jethmalani, founder of Atvis Group and Women Shaping AI, joins HiBob to unpack what that shift means in practice. Drawing on her work with PE-backed organizations, she explores why management is becoming more complex, which human skills matter most in an AI-driven world, and how rethinking traditional org charts can unlock underutilized talent and ease burnout.
This episode offers a practical, human lens on what it takes to lead well when work and the way we organize it keep evolving.
Key takeaways:
00:00 Introduction
02:22 The manager role has become more complex as pressure increases from all directions
05:08 Many managers would step away from leadership roles if career growth did not depend on them
09:51 Sound judgment and discernment remain critical in AI-augmented work
15:34 Power skills such as communication and empathy are becoming key leadership differentiators
23:15 Organizations are moving from org charts to outcome-driven work charts
28:37 Management increasingly involves designing and overseeing human and digital labor
31:25 Creativity, critical thinking, and authentic connection make human work irreplaceable
40:32 Middle managers remain essential for translating strategy into execution
Resources mentioned:
Malvika Jethmalani
https://www.linkedin.com/in/malvikajethmalani/
Atvis Group | LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/company/atvis-group/
Atvis Group | Website
https://www.atvisgroup.com/
Women Shaping AI | LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-shaping-ai/
Women Shaping AI | Website
https://www.womenshapingai.org/
Microsoft Work Trend Index
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/worklab/work-trend-index
“Irreplaceable” by Pascal Bornet
https://www.amazon.com/IRREPLACEABLE-Art-Standing-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1394264402
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