People Who See

In our season one finale episode, we continue our conversation with Dr. Beth about her doctoral work in spiritual listening, and dig into questions like: 

How do power and privilege affect spiritual listening? 

Is spiritual listening appropriate in all situations? 

How can we learn more about spiritual listening? 

Resources:

The People Who See Webpage

Free Spiritual Disciples Handbook (PDF)

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Today we have the delight of interviewing our very own Dr. Beth - cofounder of People Who See - about her doctoral work in spiritual listening and answers questions like: 

What is spiritual listening?

Why is spiritual listening so desperately needed in the church right now? 

How can we find connection in the midst of deep disagreement? 

Are there tools to help us be better listeners? 

Resources:

The People Who See Webpage

Free Spiritual Disciples Handbook (PDF)

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In this episode, we talk more with spiritual director Dawn Dishman about spiritual disciplines, and she leads us through a prayer practice! 

What do we do when we find ourselves longing for more in our faith? 

How do we survive the desert moments of our faith?

Why don’t our current understandings of Christian spirituality include the disciplines? 

How can the disciplines stretch us to reimagine the ways we connect with God?

How would our spiritual lives change if we approached our relationship with God the way we approached other relationships?

How can we begin our own journey with the disciplines? 

Here are some books we reference in the episode! 

Formed for the Glory of God by Kyle Strobel

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer

Invitation to Solitude and Silence by Ruth Haley Barton

Sacred Rhythms: Arranging Our Lives for Spiritual Transformation by Ruth Haley Barton

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Today we are so excited to introduce you to Dawn Dishman, Beth and Esther’s spiritual director! In this interview, she shares her story of discovering spiritual disciplines and helps us to answer questions like: 

What is spiritual direction? 

How does spiritual direction differ from coaching, counseling, or discipling? 

What are spiritual disciplines? 

How can spiritual disciplines change the way we view our spiritual lives? 

Here are some books we reference in the episode! 

Formed for the Glory of God by Kyle Strobel

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer

Invitation to Solitude and Silence by Ruth Haley Barton

Sacred Rhythms: Arranging Our Lives for Spiritual Transformation by Ruth Haley Barton

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In part two of this conversation we dig into meaningful questions like: 

Why does Christianity tend to believe that the body is bad, and how can we begin to believe that our bodies are good? 

How has purity culture affected the way we see our bodies?

How can we stop comparing traumas? 

How can we be good companions to survivors of trauma?

Can God understand the pain of survivors of sexual violence? 

How can churches become more trauma-sensitive? 

TW: This episode includes content about sexual violence and trauma that may be difficult for some listeners. Sometimes this material can be challenging even when we least expect it. If you notice anxiety or difficult thoughts arising please give yourself space to pause, breathe, or even walk away if needed. In our life journey we are all healing from something. As we dialogue about some of life’s most painful experiences please be mindful of what your body needs and know that you are loved.

Here are the resources we referenced in the episode! 

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk

Christian Practical Wisdom: What it is, Why it Matters by Bonnie Miller-McLemore

The Dinah Project: A Handbook for Congregational Response to Sexual Violence by Monica Coleman

Wounded Heart: Hope for Adult Victims of Childhood Sexual Abuse by Dan Allender

How Survivors of Abuse Relate to God: The Authentic Spirituality of the Annihilated Soul by Susan Shooter 

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In part one of our conversation with Sumer Bingham Musick, we hear Sumer’s story, we learn about her dissertation research, and ask questions like: 

What is embodied theology? 
Does the body matter to God?

What is the place of the spiritual in the midst of physical healing? 

Did Jesus experience sexual violence? 

How can the church better care for survivors? 

TW: This episode includes content about sexual violence and trauma that may be difficult for some listeners. Sometimes this material can be challenging even when we least expect it. If you notice anxiety or difficult thoughts arising please give yourself space to pause, breathe, or even walk away if needed. In our life journey we are all healing from something. As we dialogue about some of life’s most painful experiences please be mindful of what your body needs and know that you are loved.

Here are the resources we referenced in the episode! 

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk

Christian Practical Wisdom: What it is, Why it Matters by Bonnie Miller-McLemore

The Dinah Project: A Handbook for Congregational Response to Sexual Violence by Monica Coleman

Wounded Heart: Hope for Adult Victims of Childhood Sexual Abuse by Dan Allender

How Survivors of Abuse Relate to God: The Authentic Spirituality of the Annihilated Soul by Susan Shooter 

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In part two of our conversation with Rev. Dr. Teri McDowell Ott we talk about about how to have hard conversations, we ask questions like: 

How can the church be better at having hard conversations? 

What is the role of privilege in these conversations? 

What is the difference between peacekeeping  and peacemaking?

What if conversations don’t go well? 

Is there a magic formula that will ensure these conversations go well?

How do we overcome the fear of having these conversations?

Here are the books we reference in the episode! 

Teri's Book Necessary Risks! 

Teri's Article for the Christian Century

Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know by Adam Grant

All About Love by bell hooks

Just Us: An American Conversation by Claudia Rankine

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In part one of our conversation with Rev. Dr. Teri McDowell Ott, we discuss her book, Necessary Risks, and her article, “A liberal daughter discusses White privilege with her conservative father.” In this half of the conversation we ask questions like:

What kind of risks do we need to take as Christians to be liberated from our fears? 

How can we re-center our lives to focus on thought leaders of color?

What is a dominator culture and how does it change our conversations? 

What is the role of power and privilege in hard conversations?

Here are the books we reference in the episode! 

Teri's Book Necessary Risks! 

Teri's Article for the Christian Century

Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know by Adam Grant

All About Love by bell hooks

Just Us: An American Conversation by Claudia Rankine

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In part two of our interview with Alyssa Catalfino, we ask questions like: 

What assumptions have we made about Gen Z? 

What assumptions have others made about us? 

How can we learn to listen to those who are different from us? 

How can those of us who are older learn from those who are younger? 

How would we change if we saw all people as made in the Image of God? 

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In part one of our interview with Alyssa Catalfino, we have the honor of hearing her story and digging into questions like:

What does Gen Z need from the church? 

How can we hold space and grace for the church? 

How can we reject stereotypes and see others as whole people?

What can we learn from Gen Z? 

How can we learn to listen to Gen Z? 

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