In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss when and how to make a career pivot, and the questions to ask yourself before starting.

00:00 Intro

01:19 Listener career pivot story submission

05:06 Kaila’s biggest career pivot

07:55 A crucial consideration before making a career change

08:21 Kyle’s career pivots

12:13 The importance of finding what you actually enjoy doing

15:54 A common mistake with networking

20:25 Knowing career narrative

23:12 Embracing the beginner’s mindset

24:13 Listener submissions

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the rise of revenge quitting, what it is, why it’s seemingly on the rise, and their takes on its effectiveness.

00:00 Intro

01:43 Defining what “revenge quitting” is

04:05 Why 2025 will be the year of revenge quitting

09:30 Why the year of revenge quitting might actually be something else

10:37 Why Kaila loves the idea of revenge quitting

16:35 The truth about revenge quitting

17:28 How Kaila and Kyle have quit jobs in their career

22:51 The importance of exhausting your options 

26:32 A Reddit story of revenge quitting

27:57 Tactics

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the real strategies and steps involved in getting a promotion, from how and when to have the conversation with your boss, to how to get clear for yourself what you really want in the next stage of your career.

00:00 Intro

00:36 Kaila and Kyle’s first promotions

05:38 Kaila and Kyle’s 2025 career goals

07:12 The number one thing you should be doing to set yourself up for success

17:12 More tips for how to get promoted in 2025

19:29 How Kaila and Kyle became directors

23:04 The importance of checking in with your manager frequently

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew’s SVP of People Operations Kate Noel to talk about how to make the most of your year-end performance review—from how to prepare for it to what to expect from it—and what most people forget about this formal evaluation process.

00:00 Intro

00:57 How Morning Brew Inc. handles performance reviews

05:53 The pros and cons of performance reviews

10:18 Advice for one-on-ones 

13:48 How to make the most of your performance review

17:56 Talking merit increases

21:10 How biases play out in performance reviews

28:28 What should you do if you don’t get that promotion you were hoping for?

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the companies in the UK and in Japan that have been experimenting with the 4-day work week, what the outcomes have been, and whether or not we can expect to see it implemented in the US. Does the 4-day work week actually solve anything? Is it beneficial or detrimental to society as a whole?

00:00 Intro

01:41 The New York Times report on UK businesses piloting the 4-day workweek

06:46 When a 4-day workweek isn’t a fix

11:29 The Tokyo case study of the 4-day workweek

17:49 Reimagining our current work standards and systems

21:56 What can we do based on the 4-day work week research

26:51 A little holiday surprise

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the topic of employee surveillance, including the recent invasion of privacy lawsuit against Apple, and how it impacts company culture. Do companies have the right to monitor employee behavior? Is employee surveillance the new normal? And what can employees do to fight back?

00:00 Intro

00:28 Apple lawsuit

05:31 Stats from the ABA on employee surveillance in the US

08:10 Is surveilling employees ethical?

17:19 What it means to “look like you’re working”

23:06 How to make your job less “fuzzy”

24:20 Tactics

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about how to decide whether it’s worth moving for your career, and how they’ve made decisions to move in their own lives. Is it always worth uprooting yourself for your career? And are there particular places that it’s more advantageous to live in than others?

00:00 Intro

01:22 Malcolm Gladwell quote

05:03 What went into Kyle’s decision to move to New York

08:38 A research-backed argument for relocating

13:18 Why location is so important to consider when moving for a job

17:30 Why Kaila moved to New York

22:15 “Digital Nomads”

26:14 Cities that are trying to attract new remote workers as residents

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by career advice expert and content creator Hanna Goefft (@hannagetshired) to discuss the pros and cons of job hopping, how it looks to potential employers, and at what stages of your career it can positively or negatively impact your trajectory. 

00:00 Intro

01:30 How we’re defining “job hopping”

03:05 Stats on millennial job hopping

04:32 A case against job hopping 

07:27 How recruiters view job hopping on a resume

10:38 How to explain layoffs on your resume

15:10 Hanna’s job hopping history

19:59 When job hopping is viewed more negatively

22:25 How careers are evaluated differently depending on your seniority 

28:31 The under-appreciated benefit of staying at one company

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into Allstate’s innovative new hybrid work plan for their 54,000 employees across the country, and discuss the pros and cons of the plan, how it might play out in real time, and whether or not this is the future of work. 

00:00 Intro

01:11 Allstate’s new hybrid work plan

08:51 How Allstate’s hybrid work model might change the culture of work entirely

15:54 Are community managers the future of hybrid work?

18:56 How Allstate is handling onboarding

21:33 Why Allstate’s model is so brilliant

26:34 Does Allstate’s model translate to companies of different sizes?

Articles referenced in this episode: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-18/allstate-thinks-outside-the-cubicle-with-flexible-offices-coworking?srnd=work-shift  

https://www.hr-brew.com/stories/2024/04/10/allstate-workplace-futurist-lauren-deyoung

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the wave of big companies (Meta,Target, Fidelity, EY, to name a few) that have made headlines recently for firing employees over small offenses. Are these companies becoming stricter, or are these just layoffs in disguise? And is this a brilliant or a detrimental strategy?

00:00 Intro

01:58 Recent headlines about firings over small offenses

09:02 What we’re calling “sneaky layoffs”

11:29 On severance

16:51 Kyle’s hot take

21:39 Why it would be better for companies to do traditional layoffs

25:23 What can you do about sneaky layoffs?

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