PERFcast

In part one, PERF Executive Director Chuck Wexler speaks with former Chief Scott Thomson, who was the first chief of the new department, about the state of crime and community trust in the beginning before the reform and the actions taken to rebuild reform the department.  

Speakers (4) in order of appearance: 

• Dustin Waters, PERF Editor and Audio Engineer 
• Rachel Apfelbaum, PERF Writer, Producer, and Narrator 
• Chuck Wexler, PERF Executive Director 
• Scott Thomson, former chief of Camden County (NJ) Police Department 

Article on Camden County (NJ) Police Department:

• “Camden County Police Marks 10 Years of Patrolling the City” – P.Kenneth Burns, PBS, May 2023 - https://whyy.org/articles/camden-county-police-ten-year-anniversary/  

This podcast series is part of the Critical Issues in Policing series, supported by the Motorola Solutions Foundation.

Thanks for listening to PERFcast, the official podcast of the Police Executive Research Forum. For more information on PERF, visit www.policeforum.org. 

In this episode, youth leaders and police share successful strategies for engaging and establishing trust with youth to improve overall community relationships with police, as well as reduce crime. 

Speakers (12) in order of appearance: 

• Dustin Waters, PERF Editor and Audio Engineer 
• Chuck Wexler, PERF Executive Director 
• Rachel Apfelbaum, PERF Writer, Producer, and Narrator 
• Abrianna Morales, CEO, Sexual Assault Youth Support Network (SAYSN) and Program Manager, National Organization of Victim Assistance (NOVA) – Youth Advocacy Corps  
• Romero Davis, Senior Program Manager, Social Current 
• Chuck Ramsey, Co-Chair White House Task Force on 21st Century Policing, former Commissioner of Philadelphia (PA) Police, former Chief of Metropolitan (DC) PD, and former Deputy Superintendent of Chicago PD 
• Sergeant William Corrales, Tucson (AZ) Police Department 
• Chairwoman Karen Gaal, Metropolitan (DC) Police Department’s 3rd District Citizens Advisory Council 
• Bryan Kelly, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group  
• Ron Huberman, CEO/Founder Benchmark Analytics and former Superintendent of Chicago Public Schools & former Assistant Deputy Superintendent of the Chicago Police Department 
• Chief Leo Schmitz, Cook County (IL) Sheriff’s Police Department  

This podcast series is part of the Critical Issues in Policing series, supported by the Motorola Solutions Foundation.

Thanks for listening to PERFcast, the official podcast of the Police Executive Research Forum. For more information on PERF, visit www.policeforum.org. 

Central to the conversation about public trust in police are the historical and current incidents that have exacerbated mistrust. In part two of this episode, community members and police leaders share how discussing these events can narrow these divides. The episode also highlights successful broader community engagement programs and explains why police and academics should work together to evaluate programs and base them in evidence. 

Speakers (16) in order of appearance: 

• Dustin Waters, PERF Editor and Audio Engineer 
• Chuck Wexler, PERF Executive Director 
• Rachel Apfelbaum, PERF Writer, Producer, and Narrator 
• Chairwoman Karen Gaal, Metropolitan (DC) Police Department’s 3rd District Citizens Advisory Council 
• Director Nancy La Vigne, Department of Justice (DOJ) National Institute of Justice (NIJ) 
• Bryan Kelly, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Mandi Leigh, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Romero Davis, Senior Program Manager, Social Current 
• Sergeant William Corrales, Tucson (AZ) Police Department 
• Chief Adrian Diaz, Seattle (WA) Police Department 
• Gabriel Diaz, Community Service Officer, Tucson (AZ) Police Department 
• Captain Rob Fanelli, Gainesville (FL) Police Department 
• Chief Pam Davis, Punta Gorda (FL) Police Department 
• Sheriff Tom Dart, Cook County (IL) Sheriff’s Office 
• Abrianna Morales, CEO, Sexual Assault Youth Support Network (SAYSN) and Program Manager, National Organization of Victim Assistance (NOVA) – Youth Advocacy Corps  
• Chief Joe Harvey, Golden (CO) Police Department 

Resources mentioned in episode: 

• “A Police Department’s Difficult Assignment: Atonement” – Michael Friedrich, Bloomberg News, October 2019 - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-23/what-police-community-reconciliation-can-look-like    
  • Information on Department of Justice’s National Initiative on Building Community Trust & Justice and the Urban Institute’s findings on the impacts
  • Information on Stockton Police Department’s “Courageous Conversations”
• Seattle Police Department’s Before-the-Badge Program - https://www.seattle.gov/police/community-policing/before-the-badge  
• Cook County (Illinois) Sheriff’s Office Community Resource Center - https://www.cookcountysheriff.org/departments/community-relations/community-programs/community-resource-center/  
• Department of Justice (DOJ) National Institute of Justice (NIJ) Law Enforcement Opportunities and Resources - https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/law-enforcement  

This podcast series is part of the Critical Issues in Policing series, supported by the Motorola Solutions Foundation.

Thanks for listening to PERFcast, the official podcast of the Police Executive Research Forum. For more information on PERF, visit www.policeforum.org. 

In this two-part episode, police, academics, and community members share the challenges they have experienced in building trust and strategies to overcome them. Part one explains why conventional surveys and community engagement programs are unlikely to reach some residents. It also highlights some successful strategies to reach these groups and engage the broader community. 

Speakers (21) in order of appearance: 

• Dustin Waters, PERF Editor and Audio Engineer 
• Chuck Wexler, PERF Executive Director 
• Rachel Apfelbaum, PERF Writer, Producer, and Narrator 
• Romero Davis, Senior Program Manager, Social Current 
• Director Nancy La Vigne, Department of Justice (DOJ) National Institute of Justice (NIJ) 
• Chairwoman Karen Gaal, Metropolitan (DC) Police Department’s 3rd District Citizens Advisory Council 
• Abrianna Morales, CEO, Sexual Assault Youth Support Network (SAYSN) and Program Manager, National Organization of Victim Assistance (NOVA) – Youth Advocacy Corps 
• Ron Huberman, CEO/Founder Benchmark Analytics and former Superintendent of Chicago Public Schools & former Assistant Deputy Superintendent of the Chicago Police Department 
• Michelle Minihane, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Sergeant William Corrales, Tucson (AZ) Police Department 
• Executive Director Dwayne Crawford, National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives (NOBLE) 
• Chief Leo Schmitz, Cook County (IL) Sheriff’s Police Department 
• Eric Trout, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Bryan Kelly, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Nola Joyce, Partner and Principal Consultant of 21 CP Solutions, and former Deputy Commissioner of Philadelphia Police Department  
• Captain Rob Fanelli, Gainesville (FL) Police Department 
• Detective Chris Carita, Fort Lauderdale (FL) Police Department 
• Gabriel Diaz, Community Service Officer, Tucson (AZ) Police Department 
• Chief Joe Harvey, Golden (CO) Police Department  
• Chief Pam Davis, Punta Gorda (FL) Police Department  
• Mandi Leigh, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group

Resources mentioned in episode:

• “How Oakland Police Cut Traffic Stop Numbers by 40% with a Simple Checkbox” – Lara O’Reilly, Yahoo!Finance, July 2019 – https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/how-the-oakland-police-cut-traffic-stop-numbers-by-40-with-a-simple-checkbox-070000004.html  
• Golden Community Engagement Group Information - https://crimewatch.net/us/co/jefferson/golden-pd/145292/post/community-engagement-group-ceg  

This podcast series is part of the Critical Issues in Policing series, supported by the Motorola Solutions Foundation.

Thanks for listening to PERFcast, the official podcast of the Police Executive Research Forum. For more information on PERF, visit www.policeforum.org. 

In this episode, police and community members discuss how they define trust. Police leaders then share how they have integrated these trust building principles into their department’s operations and how they can measure community needs and sentiment. 

Speakers (14) in order of appearance: 

• Dustin Waters, PERF Editor and Audio Engineer 
• Chuck Wexler, PERF Executive Director 
• Rachel Apfelbaum, PERF Writer, Producer and Narrator 
• Chief Joe Harvey, Golden (CO) Police Department 
• Director Nancy La Vigne, Department of Justice (DOJ) National Institute of Justice (NIJ) 
• Sheriff Tom Dart, Cook County (IL) Sheriff’s Office 
• Nola Joyce, Partner and Principal Consultant of 21 CP Solutions + former Deputy Commissioner of Philadelphia Police Department  
• Detective Chris Carita, Fort Lauderdale (FL) Police Department 
• Eric Trout, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Michelle Minihane, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Bryan Kelly, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Mandi Leigh, Golden (CO) Police Department Community Engagement Group 
• Romero Davis, Senior Program Manager, Social Current 
• Chief Adrian Diaz, Seattle (WA) Police Department 

Resource links: 

• Seattle Police Department's Micro-Community Policing Plans Information - https://www.seattle.gov/police/information-and-data/data/mcpp-about  

This podcast series is part of the Critical Issues in Policing series, supported by the Motorola Solutions Foundation.

Thanks for listening to PERFcast, the official podcast of the Police Executive Research Forum. For more information on PERF, visit www.policeforum.org. 

In this episode, PERF Executive Director Chuck Wexler interviews the co-chairs of the White House Task Force on 21st Century Policing - former Commissioner Chuck Ramsey (Philadelphia Police Department) and Laurie Robinson (Professor Emerita at George Mason University, and former Assistant Attorney General, DOJ Office of Justice Programs). They discuss how the national landscape of police-community trust has changed since the Task Force published its report in 2016 and the lessons learned that are still relevant today.

Speakers (5) in order of appearance:  

• Dustin Waters, PERF Editor and Audio Engineer 
• Rachel Apfelbaum, PERF Writer, Producer, and Narrator 
• Chuck Wexler, PERF Executive Director 
• Laurie Robinson, Co-Chair White House Task Force on 21st Century Policing Report, Professor Emerita at George Mason University, and former Assistant Attorney General for DOJ Office of Justice Programs 
• Chuck Ramsey, Co-Chair White House Task Force on 21st Century Policing Report, former Commissioner of Philadelphia (PA) Police, former Chief of MPD, and former Deputy Superintendent of Chicago PD 

Resources mentioned in episode: 

• White House Task Force on 21st Century Policing Report (https://cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/taskforce/taskforce_finalreport.pdf)  
• 2023 update – Task Force on 21st Century Policing: A Renewed Call to Action https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5ad62e3aec4eb7c4b00e03a0/t/644718fc677c5618827f6d40/1682381053513/Task_Force_Call_to_Action_Final_42523.pdf  
• Evidence Assessment of Task Force Recommendations https://www.theiacp.org/sites/default/files/all/s/StartingwithWhatWorksBrochureWeb.pdf  

This podcast series is part of the Critical Issues in Policing series, supported by the Motorola Solutions Foundation.

Thanks for listening to PERFcast, the official podcast of the Police Executive Research Forum. For more information on PERF, visit www.policeforum.org. 

In this episode, police leaders and community members will establish the foundation for the rest of the series by discussing how police agencies can differentiate themselves from the national narrative by building trust with the local community they serve. 

Speakers (13) in order of appearance: 

• Dustin Waters, PERF Editor and Audio Engineer 
• Chuck Wexler, PERF Executive Director 
• Rachel Apfelbaum, PERF Writer, Producer, and Narrator 
• Nola Joyce, Partner and Principal Consultant of 21 CP Solutions and former Deputy Commissioner of Philadelphia Police Department  
• Chief Joe Harvey, Golden (CO) Police Department 
• Michelle Minihane, Golden (CO) Police Department Engagement Group 
• Mandi Leigh, Golden (CO) Police Department Engagement Group 
• Yasmine Bryant, college student and PERF HBCU Intern  
• Chief Pam Davis, Punta Gorda (FL) Police Department 
• Director Nancy La Vigne, Department of Justice (DOJ) National Institute of Justice (NIJ) 
• Deputy Commissioner Sheree Briscoe, Baltimore City (MD) Police Department  
• Captain Rob Fanelli, Gainesville (FL) Police Department 
• Chief Leo Schmitz, Cook County (IL) Sheriff’s Police Department  

Resources mentioned in episode: 

• PERF 2021 Survey on Policing Priorities – https://www.policeforum.org/criticalissuesdec3  
• 2023 & 2020 Gallup Polls on Americans’ Confidence in U.S. Major Societal Institutions:
  • 2023 – https://news.gallup.com/poll/508169/historically-low-faith-institutions-continues.aspx  
  • 2020 – https://news.gallup.com/poll/317135/amid-pandemic-confidence-key-institutions-surges.aspx  

This podcast series is part of the Critical Issues in Policing series, supported by the Motorola Solutions Foundation.

Thanks for listening to PERFcast, the official podcast of the Police Executive Research Forum. For more information on PERF, visit www.policeforum.org. 

PERF Executive Director Chuck Wexler speaks with NYPD  Communications Officer and former detective Edward Conlon. Learn about "Talk to Me," the podcast series that details the birth of hostage negotiations and how the NYPD pioneered key techniques. For more information on Talk to Me and to listen to the series, visit www.podcastone.com/pd/Talk-To-Me.

Thanks for listening to PERFcast, the official podcast of the Police Executive Research Forum. For more information on PERF, visit www.policeforum.org.