The Terrible Photographer

Permission to Suck - Turning Failure Into Data


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Every photographer needs permission to suck. And I mean that literally. In this episode, I explore the difference between accidental failure and strategic failure, and why that difference will determine whether you spend your career playing it safe or actually growing into the photographer you're meant to become.

From my own lighting disaster at a corporate shoot to Jerry Seinfeld's brutal honesty about audience judgment, we dive into how the greatest creatives use failure as a laboratory for growth. Learn why test shoots are your creative lifeline, how Roger Deakins broke convention to create cinematic magic in Skyfall, and why Ira Glass's famous "gap" between taste and ability is actually a feature, not a bug.


Key Topics Covered

  • The Anatomy of Avoidable Failure: Why I overcomplicated a simple lighting setup and what it taught me about scouting, team structure, and the control illusion
  • The Comedy Club Method: How comedians like Jerry Seinfeld test material in low-stakes environments and what photographers can learn from their approach
  • Strategic vs. Random Failure: The four pillars of testing that turn mistakes into data
  • Roger Deakins' Skyfall Innovation: How the master cinematographer used LED panels as primary lighting to create one of Bond's most iconic scenes
  • The Ira Glass Creative Gap: Why the distance between your taste and ability never fully closes—and why that's exactly what keeps you growing
  • Reframing Failure as Data: How to approach creative setbacks with scientific curiosity instead of personal inadequacy


Featured Audio Clips

  • Jerry Seinfeld - "The Best of Jerry Seinfeld" (Netflix Is A Joke): On the relationship between comedians and their audience
  • Ira Glass - On the creative gap between taste and ability (original clip source unknown)


Music Credits

  • Max Richter - "On The Nature of Daylight" (transitional music)
  • Additional music provided by The Blue Dot Sessions (used under The Blanket License)
  • Additional music provided by Epidemic Sound


Referenced Works & People

  • Roger Deakins - Cinematographer (Blade Runner 2049, No Country for Old Men, The Shawshank Redemption, Fargo, 1917, Skyfall)
  • Jerry Seinfeld - Comedian and creator of Seinfeld
  • Ira Glass - Host and creator of This American Life
  • Chris Rock - Comedian referenced for his methodical approach to material testing


Your Assignment

Schedule a test shoot this month. Not someday when you have more time or better gear, in the next 30 days. Pick one specific thing you want to explore:

  • One lighting technique you're curious about
  • One narrative approach you're afraid to try with clients
  • One stylistic choice that feels risky but intriguing

Write it down. Put it on your calendar. Treat it like the professional development it actually is. Give yourself permission to suck spectacularly—because bombing in private is how you learn to shine in public.


Connect With The Show

Leave a Voicemail: Share your own creative failures, test shoot discoveries, or questions about strategic experimentation at terriblephotographer.com/voicemail

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Resources Mentioned

  • Test shoot planning and execution strategies
  • The four pillars of strategic failure framework
  • Environmental lighting philosophy and practical application
  • Creative audit questions for identifying growth opportunities
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