Perspectives Into Practice | Walk with God

Hey friends, hand to heart, I want to tell you about a conversation that reminded me how much God can do through one small yes. I sat down with my new friend Sharon and she shared a quiet, ordinary practice that has become extraordinary. She travels the world and, for years, has simply packed four devotional books on every trip and prayed about who to give them to. That small act of obedience has opened doors, started friendships, and created ongoing prayer connections that bless her more than she ever expected.

Can I tell you something? There was a moment in our talk that stopped me. Sharon told how, as a deacon moderator, she began texting everyone in her geographic region and asking, "How can I pray for you today?" She didn’t rush past the answers. She waited, sat down, wrote a thoughtful prayer, and sent it back. People responded with honest needs, wounds, and requests. One woman took a simple card to a cancer checkup and said it steadied her. That story stuck with me the whole week.

There’s a biblical rhythm here. Ecclesiastes speaks about a three strand cord being not easily broken, and I keep coming back to that verse, Ecclesiastes 4:12. When we connect two hearts and lift them to God, something stronger forms. Obedience to God, even in tiny ways, ties us together in a bond that carries blessing beyond what we can see.

Here's the thing I want you to try this week. You don’t have to overhaul your life. You can begin with a five minute yes. If someone asks you to pray, don’t say yes and hope you remember later. Text back, write a short prayer, or speak it into your phone and send the voice message. That small, immediate response makes the person feel seen, and it trains your heart to be faithful.

I remember the awkwardness of thinking I needed a big platform to make a difference. Sharon’s gentle obedience reminded me that faith in practice looks ordinary. It looks like a chart that helps you pray for family, a spreadsheet that keeps you honest, or a devotional slipped into the hands of a stranger on a cruise. The outward action is small. The spiritual consequence is large.

• Try asking, How can I pray for you today? in a text or message
• When someone answers, take a moment to write a prayer and send it back
• Keep a log or thread so you can follow up and ask, How is that going?

These are simple steps, but they produce connection. They invite God to show up. They also protect you from the slipshod promise of saying, "I’ll pray for you," and never following through. Most of all, they remind us that obedience is how we show love to God and to one another.

So I don’t know about you, but I feel encouraged to be faithful in the small things again. If you want a scripture to tuck in your heart while you start, hold on to Ecclesiastes 4:12 and let it remind you that our prayer connects us to God and to one another in a way that lasts.

This episode of Perspectives Into Practice features Sharon’s stories, practical ideas you can use immediately, and gentle invitations to make prayer a habit that blesses you and others. I hope it encourages you to say yes when God nudges you, even if it’s only for five minutes. Please listen to the episode, share it with a friend who needs a gentle nudge, and leave feedback to let us know how saying yes is changing your life.

Can I tell you something? I love stories where God whispers first and then asks us to move. Ladies, friends, hand to heart, that’s exactly what happened for Margie, and as I listened to her tell it I felt that familiar mix of awe and hope. I remember sitting across from her and thinking, here is a woman who trusted long enough to be surprised by God.

Margie is a Texa Rican, married 25 years, and a mom of four. For years her life looked a certain way - the house, the plans, the remodels, the busy-ness of family life. As the kids started to leave home she realized that the life that looked right on the outside wasn’t fully reflecting what she and her husband felt on the inside. They planned a dream trip to Fiji, and when they finally slowed down and really got quiet, God spoke. Not through a dramatic sign but through worship, community, and that gentle nudging that says, let it go. Sell the house. Move.

You see, God often meets us in the ordinary quiet. In our conversation Margie said something simple and true: God speaks loudest when we actually get quiet. They were in a church where everyone from the youngest to the oldest was singing and it felt like the voice of God coming through that moment of worship. They came home convinced and then watched the logistics line up in ways that felt completely guided - an immediate offer, buyers with a newborn, contingency timelines that resolved in days, not months. It was one of those moments where the details felt signed, sealed, and so very sweet.

Here's the thing I can't stop thinking about: obedience often feels risky and messy before it feels freeing. Margie told me about listing the house, juggling holidays, trusting friends who helped pack, and a friend who said, we either get stressed for nine days or get stressed for nine months. She chose the nine days. That practical friend-say was such a gift because obedience didn't mean reckless panic; it meant choosing trust over control and taking practical steps forward.

Scripture kept coming to mind as I listened. Proverbs 3:5-6 invites us to trust the Lord with all our heart and not lean on our own understanding. Psalm 46:10 reminds us to be still and know that He is God. Margie’s story is a tender example of both scriptures working together - stillness to hear, trust to act.

If you want to put this into practice in your life, here are a few things I said to myself and to you as I reflected on her story:

Margie’s timeline was messy at times. The family had a conference, holiday travel, and unexpected deadlines. But she also had friends, a realtor who asked hard questions, and neighbors who showed up. Can I tell you something honest? Trusting God is rarely a solo sport. We need people to pray, to help pack boxes, to remind us of truth when we want to cling to the familiar.

I think many of us will relate to that misaligned feeling Margie described - when life looks okay but doesn’t reflect your heart. If that’s you, maybe the first faithful thing isn’t to overhaul your whole life but to get quiet, ask God one question, and listen. You might be surprised how God meets you in the small moments and then changes the big picture.

So what did I want you to take away from this episode? I want you to hear that God is present in the ordinary, that obedience can feel both uncertain and guided, and that practical steps matter. Trusting God doesn’t make the push easy but it does make the path honest and often unexpectedly joyful.

Friends, if this episode stirred something in you, I hope you'll sit with Margie's story, journal one small next step, and reach out to a friend who can pray with you. And now, I'd love for you to listen to the full conversation, share it with someone who needs encouragement, and leave feedback about this episode so we can keep bringing these real-life perspectives into practice. Please listen, share, and leave feedback about this episode.

Hey friends, hand to heart, this conversation landed gently and honestly with me. In this episode Pat and I talk about what it feels like when a role that shaped your rhythm is no longer yours. Let me tell you - that moment of release is not only about loss, it's about learning how to trust God differently and discovering who you are when titles change.

I begin with a little fun fact because I love those moments that make us smile. Pat grew up in a football-loving family and then had a ballerina for a daughter. You see, that unexpected twist showed up in our conversation as a reminder that life’s seasons often bring surprising gifts and new rhythms. That little anecdote is a doorway to a deeper story about how God moves when we make room for someone else to step in.

Pat walked with the Lord in a season of faithful service and leadership. Over time she sensed God raising someone else up - a woman she’d helped, trained, and cheered on. I remember asking Pat when she first knew God might be asking her to let go. Her answer was tender: she had seen God at work in another person and knew it was time to release the role. Emotions came up - fear of the unknown, worry about how others would view the transition, even concern for the friendship itself. Those are real, normal things we wrestle with.

We talk about what it felt like to move from pressure to peace. For Pat that meant staying faithful in prayer, sitting with Jesus in the mornings, and intentionally choosing to be a witness rather than to direct the next season. She asked the Lord to sanctify her ego, to shape her ambitions so the posture would be humility and praise. That prayer felt like a hinge moment - it moved her from performance to presence.

Scripture helped steady both of us. Proverbs 3 5-6 reminds me to trust the Lord with all my heart and not rely on my own understanding. That verse kept showing up as Pat described the delicate balance of supporting a friend while also stepping back. When we fix our eyes on the Father rather than on applause, identity stops being tied to a title and becomes rooted in who God says we are.

Here are practical ways we learned to put perspective into practice:

• Pray first and often - make your morning time with Jesus the place you process feelings and decisions.
• Invite accountability - have one friend who will speak truth when your ego gets loud.
• Pass on what matters - share mentorship, not ownership, so the next leader can grow without people-pleasing.
• Be a witness - show up to cheer, not to control, and hold gratitude for what God does through others.

Pat shared a raw moment about jealous thoughts before the first event she attended where the new leader led. Can I tell you something? That honesty was freeing. We both talked about how God meets us in those moments when we name the feeling and turn it over. That practice keeps faith from becoming self-centered and reorients our heart toward the Father.

If you’re sitting with a role that’s shifting or an identity that feels uncertain, I want you to know I’m walking with you in spirit. You don’t have to have it all figured out. Keep coming to the Word, keep asking God to sanctify your desires, and keep being generous with what God has given you. There is life and joy on the other side of the letting go.

Join Pat and me for this episode of Perspectives Into Practice to hear the full conversation, the tender stories, and the practical next steps you can try this week. Please listen, share with a friend who needs this, and leave us feedback about how this episode landed with you.

Friends, let me tell you about a conversation that landed in my heart and won't let go. I was talking with Kathleen, a woman who loves puzzles and God's word, and she used that puzzle image in such a tender way. You know that feeling when you look back and realize God was fitting the pieces together long before you knew the picture? Hand to heart, that is what this episode is about.

I remember Kathleen sharing about an unwanted divorce she lived through and how scripture memory became the lifeline that pulled her out of fear. She said simple verses like When I am afraid I put my trust in you changed the shape of her mornings. Instead of waking up braced for battle, she began waking up with a Psalm or a promise tucked in her chest, and that shifted everything.

Here's the thing, the Bible gives us language and rhythm so we can hear God more clearly. When scripture is internalized it becomes a filter for competing voices. As Romans 8:1 reminds us there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, and that truth protects us from accusations that would steal our peace.

One small story from Kathleen stuck with me. She told about a contractor who came looking for payment. On impulse she sent him away and then felt the quiet nudge not to withhold good when you have it in your power to act. She called him back and paid the balance. That moment came from a verse turned habit, which is exactly how Proverbs 3:27 shows us to steward what is in our hands. You see how practical faith looks in an ordinary kitchen conversation?

If you want something you can do this week try these simple steps I talked about on the episode

• Choose one short verse to memorize - something you can fit in your pocket or on a note card
• Repeat it aloud in the morning and before bed until it starts to come to mind naturally
• Meditate on the phrase - let it shape your thoughts for five minutes rather than racing through study
• Look for one small obedience prompted by that verse and act on it

No grand program required - just faithful repetition and small response. Kathleen calls scripture memory and meditation twin powers. I think that's right because when what you believe is held in your heart it changes how you respond to fear and to people, and it deepens intimacy with God.

We also talk about what to do when memorizing feels legalistic or boring. Be gentle with yourself. Start with verses that speak mercy and delight. Put them in places you already go like your phone lock screen or your kitchen timer. Little anchors make big differences over time.

So what might you carry this week? Which verse will be the one you pull out when doubt whispers? Which short promise will you practice until it becomes a reflex? Can I tell you something, friends - God meets us in these small rhythms and uses them to turn awareness into practice.

I hope this episode gives you both the encouragement and the practical next step to live more aware of God's presence. Come listen to the full conversation with Kathleen on Perspectives Into Practice. Please listen, share, and leave feedback about this episode.

Hey friends, hand to heart, let me tell you why this conversation landed like a tap on my shoulder. I invited Val to the podcast because she was living in that place where life felt heavy and confusing and every answer she tried to manufacture just made things worse. We talk about how she learned to loosen her grip and ask God for one surprising thing she had never asked for before—clarity. I remember sitting with her and feeling that familiar ache of wanting to control outcomes instead of trusting God's timing.

Can I tell you something? Val's story is not a neat testimony of answers arriving like clockwork. It's messy, faithful, and very human. She described last year as a season of swimming against the current. Her health, job, and hope felt battered. At a prayer event she prayed for a friend and then, to her surprise, could not name a request for herself. The words that came out were clarity. When someone prayed that back over her she felt a weight lift, even though uncertainty remained. That moment captures a truth I keep coming back to as a follower of Jesus: sometimes faith asks us to step without having the whole plan in place.

We talked about control in a way that felt honest and tender. Val shared that she has been a control person for most of her life, even in grief after losing a child 13 years ago. You see, control can become a false safety net. When her work hours were cut and money looked unstable she braced for a fight at home, but instead she discovered that God used that disruption to create new space and unexpected blessing. That was one of those gentle reminders that God often rearranges our plans so we can actually live the life he has for us.

I pulled out a scripture with her about the pillar of cloud and the pillar of fire that led the Israelites, because it fit so well. Exodus 13:21 shows a God who goes before his people visibly, and yet even seeing God with them did not keep them from fear or stubbornness. Val said that she doesn't have a pillar of fire, but she has learned to look for the little markers of God's presence and to let those markers guide her next steps. That felt like permission to me: permission to move without having every single answer, because God will be faithful step by step.

Here are some practical ways we talked about putting this into practice in everyday life:

Here's the thing: faith is often quieter than we expect. It doesn't always arrive as a thunderclap, but God gives us what we need for the next step. If you feel stuck where control and fear are louder than God's voice, try praying for clarity and then watch for the small invitations to move. I really do think joy waits on the other side of that obedience.

Friends, this episode is a gentle call to get out of your own way and to trust that God will lead you when you ask for clarity. I hope Val's honesty encourages you to ask for what you need and to accept help when it comes. Please listen to the conversation, share it with someone who needs to hear that they're not alone, and leave feedback about what spoke to you in this episode. I'd love to hear your takeaways and how God is inviting you to take your next right step.

Hey friends, hand to heart, this episode stayed with me long after we stopped recording. I remember the moment Lori first told me about marching band, the piccolo, and how that rhythm of showing up shaped her. Then she told me about the hemorrhagic stroke at 29, the move across country, and the quiet ache of losing a familiar self. Can I tell you something? That combination of small daily disciplines and a life shock is exactly the soil where unforgiveness can take root.

Here's the thing I kept hearing in Lori's voice: she wasn't angry in a dramatic way. She felt overlooked, misunderstood, and sometimes bypassed. Those are the little cuts that add up. She carried a story about who she was and who other people were that shifted after loss. And that's where identity in Christ becomes more than a phrase. It's the steadying truth when the world redefines you.

Biblical truth keeps showing up in our conversation. Ephesians 4:31-32 says to put away bitterness and be kind and forgiving. That verse isn't a checklist to shame you. It's a lifeline that God offers so you can be free to do the work he's called you to do. When I listen to Lori, I hear a woman who chose obedience even when apology never came. She chose the small, daily acts that rewired her heart toward wholeness.

So what does that look like in practice? I want you to be able to take something from this episode and actually use it in your life. You're not getting platitudes. You're getting tender, real steps born from a lived story, from nights of wrestling and mornings of showing up anyway.

You see, Lori's story reminded me of band practice at dawn, the rigor, the showing up. That picture kept returning because the same discipline that made music out of many parts can make new life out of fractured belonging. She didn't wait for people to change. She let God change how she moved through the world.

Along the way, we talk about identity, prayer, and the awkwardness of being vulnerable when you worry you might be unwanted. Have you ever held back because you thought your struggle would be too much for someone else? I do too, and I'm honest about that in this episode. Vulnerability doesn't mean careless exposure. It means choosing trusted people and choosing the Lord first.

This episode is full of tender storytelling, biblical perspective, and practical encouragement you can try this week. If you're carrying an unnamed hurt, or if you feel stuck waiting for an apology that may never come, listen to Lori. You'll hear a woman who moved from carrying a weight to carrying God's call with both humility and courage.

I'd love for you to join this conversation. Listen to the episode, share it with a friend who needs permission to let go, and leave feedback about what helped you most. Your listening matters to me and to Lori, and your words help other ladies take the next step toward wholeness.

Can I tell you something? From the moment Marchette and I started talking, I felt that hand-to-heart honesty that makes a conversation matter. She laughed about being fiercely competitive with board games, but the real game she wins at is choosing obedience when the scoreboard shows no visible reward. In this episode we sat in that hard place together - the place where God whispers a yes but your heart is full of questions.

I remember the scene she described - a quiet afternoon at the library, a book about the fear of God, and the story of Esther landing right on her lap. Esther 4:14 came alive for her in a fresh way - the reality that God's positioning sometimes asks us to step where there is risk and no obvious personal gain. That concrete image helped her move from paralysis to a humble yes, even when doubts and fear of rejection loomed large.

You see, we also talked about the cleansing of the temple (Luke 19:45-46) and how Jesus kept his mission even while people rejected him. Marchette shared how lying awake at night, wrestling with feelings of rejection, she found comfort in the fact that Jesus understood those emotions yet stayed focused. That didn’t cancel her feelings. Instead she learned to bring them to the Lord and not let them be the decision maker.

Here's the thing I keep coming back to: faith isn't the absence of feeling. Faith is the decision to follow God when feelings press hard to the contrary. In our conversation we named how emotions can become a kind of idol if left unchecked. We also named the beautiful flip side - emotions offered to God can become fuel for obedience and compassion rather than barriers.

From our chat, you’ll get practical, simple ways to put that perspective into practice in everyday life. These are the sorts of steps I wish someone had handed me in a tidy list when I was learning to say yes sooner. I offer them here the way Marchette lived them out.

• Name the feeling - speak it out and place it before God instead of letting it dictate your action.
• Remember your mission - remind yourself why God might be asking this of you and who might be impacted beyond you.
• Take the next small yes - obedience is often a series of tiny steps, not one giant leap.
• Practice quiet resolve - pray, trust, and keep showing up even if you don't get immediate affirmation.

Friends, this episode is tender and real. We talk about fear of rejection, the temptation to trust what we see instead of what God has said, and how to keep showing up even when obedience looks like stepping into the unknown. I share questions I asked aloud, and Marchette shares honest moments where she almost quit but chose to trust instead.

If you find yourself stuck between fear and a calling, this conversation will encourage you to bring your feelings to God, remember his promises, and obey the next thing he asks. You're not alone in that middle place, and God sees the honesty of your heart. We'd love for you to listen, share this episode with a friend who needs the encouragement, and leave feedback so we can keep bringing conversations that help faith meet real life.

Hey friends, I'm so glad you're here. Hand to heart, this episode came out of a tiny, ordinary moment on a Zoom call that turned into a window where God whispered a lesson I didn't want to miss. Bethany is my guest and she tells a story about a single thought that arrived like an invitation to react. That one moment became a mirror showing how often we let subtle thoughts steer our feet away from peace.

I remember listening and thinking, Can I tell you something? The truth is, spiritual attacks often don't arrive with thunder. They arrive quiet, like an urgent thought, a tension in your chest, or a dream that leaves you unsettled. Bethany reminded me of 2 Samuel 11 where a single choice led David into a season of consequence. That scripture isn't a guilt trip; it's a teaching moment that shows how small choices can open doors when we are not paying attention.

Here's the thing I loved about Bethany's sharing - she doesn't stop at the problem. She walked us through how she learned to tell the difference between a thought from God and a thought that needs to be tested. She talked about being born at 24 and a half weeks and how God used that story to give her perspective and compassion for others who feel stuck in negative cycles. You see, the enemy wants us to stay small and reactive. God wants us awake and intentional.

I also brought up James 4:7 where we are invited to submit and resist. That practical posture matters here. It's not mystical. It's choices. It's small pauses. It's learning to cross reference scripture like Bethany does, to compare what a thought says with what God has already said about your identity and your fruit.

If you want to put this into practice, try these simple steps I share in the episode with Bethany:

• Pause for five seconds before you react, breathe, and name the thought.
• Ask whether the thought aligns with scripture and the fruit of the Spirit.
• Tell the thought what the Bible says about you out loud or in prayer.
• Replace the grasping thought with one truth you can act on - a kind word, a helpful boundary, or a moment of rest.
• Keep a short list of verses nearby for the moments when your mind races.

Friends, I don't pretend this is easy. We practice. We fail. We get up and practice again. Bethany shared how her dreams used to be dark and how reactionary responses used to rule her day. Now she chooses differently, and that freedom grows. I think you will find her honesty encouraging and her methods usable in your life tomorrow.

So if you've been stuck wondering whether your thoughts are from God or not, this episode offers gentle tools, biblical context, and a real-life example to help you sharpen your discernment. You don't have to live in the same patterns. You get to choose differently, one thought at a time.

I'd love for you to listen in, share this episode with someone who needs a little clarity, and leave feedback about what helped you most. Thanks for joining us on Perspectives Into Practice - press play, share, and let us know what moved you.

Friends, hand to heart, I remember sitting down with Desiree and feeling that hush of the Holy Spirit between us. Can I tell you something? Her story begins with something so ordinary it makes you smile: a thrift store find. She tells the story of walking into a consignment shop because she felt a prompting, and finding a picture that felt like a personal word from God about her identity and His sacrifice. That moment set the tone for a season where obedience looked nothing like she expected.

I love that tangible moment because it shows how God meets us in small, very human places. Desiree walked through seasons of loneliness, wrestling, and even stepping away from faith as a teen. She ended up pregnant, scared, and full of opinions from everyone around her. In the middle of that mess she cried out, and she remembers a vision of Jesus reaching down, asking her to take His hand. He said keep the baby and promised to be father and husband in ways she could not yet see.

That moment of saying yes was not a tidy proof that everything would be easy. It was messy and raw. She still wrestled, questioned, and sometimes wondered if God was really there. But she kept moving toward him. That steady, imperfect movement is one of the most faithful responses we have. It reminded me of Proverbs 3 5 6 where we are invited to trust the Lord with all our heart and not rely on our own understanding. Desiree's yes was not the end of doubt, it was the start of a faith that grows through the confusion.

Here is what I kept hearing from her story and what I want you to take away. First, obedience often arrives without a full map. You won't always get the directions first. Second, God uses small, ordinary things to remind you of who you are. Third, wrestling does not mean failure. It often means you're alive in your faith.

Desiree was honest about depression and doubt. She said she had moments where she felt nothing had changed. That honesty matters because it gives us permission to be real with God and with each other. I want you to hear that faith does not eliminate hardship. It changes how we carry it.

So what might this look like for you this week? Maybe you say yes to a small obedience - an apology, a phone call, a quiet hour with Scripture. Maybe you trust God with the next right step instead of demanding the whole plan. You don't have to know the final chapter to take the next page.

As we close, I invite you to rest in the truth that God is present even when the path is unclear. If you find yourself wrestling, reach out, tell a friend, and keep leaning in. Desiree's story is a reminder that our yes is met by a God who keeps his promises and walks with us through the ordinary and the unexpected.

Friends, I hope this episode encourages you to trust in small next steps and to hold on when you can't see the outcome. Listen to Desiree's story, share it with someone who needs to hear they're not alone, and leave feedback to let us know how this episode landed with you. Please listen, share, and leave feedback about this episode.

Hey friends, I am so glad you're here. Can I tell you something? When Andrea first said yes to coming on the podcast, I felt that familiar mix of curiosity and relief. Her story landed with me like a hand to heart because it echoes so many lives I've seen where bright, shiny spiritual practices slowly leave a person dry instead of full.

I remember the part she told me about growing up with music, being curious, and how trauma nudged her toward answers that felt immediate but weren't life giving. She lost her father young and later her husband unexpectedly. Those losses became doorways to psychic readings, tarot, crystals, the law of attraction, and all the new age language that promises control and peace. You hear the longing in her voice. You see how easy it is to be seduced by practices that make sense to the mind but don't actually bring wholeness.

Here's the thing that stopped me in our conversation. Andrea described a morning in February of 2021 when she came out of her silent practice and felt God speak one sentence to her. He told her this is her year to unlearn. That phrase is a gift and a challenge. It reminded me of Hosea 4:6 where God warns that people perish for lack of knowledge. Andrea's lack was not ignorance of facts alone, it was not yet knowing the deeper life available in Christ.

We talked about what it looks like to have faith that is real and practical. She told stories about Clubhouse rooms and finding Christians who spoke Scripture into the cracks of her life. She told of waking up to worship without alarms and how scripture sung can get under your skin in a new way. That small moment of being invited into community helped her move from seeking to belonging.

If you are listening and you feel pulled between spiritual systems and a hunger for God, I want you to know I see you. You can practice trusting God in small, tangible ways that change your inner landscape. Andrea's turn toward faith wasn't a single dramatic event so much as a series of gentle course corrections rooted in truth and companionship.

Practical steps we pulled from Andrea's story

• Slow down the shiny searches and notice what you are longing for. Name the need.
• Create a simple rhythm of scripture and short prayers. Start with Psalms or gospel verses that sit well in your mouth.
• Find a safe community that will speak biblical truth and pray with you aloud.
• Give God permission to unlearn habits. Expect replacement with something better, not emptiness.
• Practice small acts of obedience that teach your heart to trust, like thanksgiving each morning or a five minute prayer break.

You see, faith grows in ordinary practice not in clever techniques. Andrea's transformation involved grief work, honest confession of what she had embraced, and steady surrender into relationship with Jesus. That is the wholeness we long for. That is real faith in practice.

I share this episode because I want you to leave with hope and a few doable next steps. If you feel unsure where to start, try Psalm readings sung or spoken, tell one trusted friend about what you're doubting, and let God guide the unlearning process. Growth in faith is often quieter than we expect but it is no less real.

Thank you for listening to this conversation with Andrea on Perspectives Into Practice. Please listen to the full episode, share it with friends who might need encouragement, and leave feedback so we can keep bringing honest, practical stories of walking with God. I'd love to hear what you learned and what steps you're taking next.