My guest is Ken Block, author of DISPROVEN: My Unbiased Search for Voter Fraud for the Trump Campaign, the Data that Shows Why He Lost, and How We Can Improve Our Elections. Looking back on the day he signed the contract with Donald Trump’s second presidential campaign, Ken Block says, “I had no idea then how finding so little would lead to so much.” The day after the 2020 presidential election, a lawyer for former U.S. President Donald Trump’s campaign called Block, a registered Republican and former gubernatorial candidate in Rhode Island, and asked if his firm, Simpatico Software Systems, would look for voter fraud. Block knew somebody was going to do it—and he knew he could do it honestly, thoroughly, and impartially. So, he took the job. In DISPROVEN: My Unbiased Search for Voter Fraud for the Trump Campaign, the Data that Shows Why He Lost, and How We Can Improve Our Elections Block describes what happened next—including another unexpected phone call early in the morning of February 23, 2023. “There is never a good time to receive a call from the FBI,” Block says. The phone call was followed by three subpoenas. We discuss the work Block did for the Trump campaign, what he did and didn’t find, and the Trump supporters who kept claiming fraud. DISPROVEN offers suggestions of how new federal laws might fix things. “I am an optimist,” he writes, but he is also a realist and remains dedicated to this work. “My involvement in these matters will continue until these cases end.”