This 23 minute episode, a conversation between Peter and Jacques really goes to the heart of some contemporary challenges. The 'social' world of community sits 'between' the individual and institutions. Yet the social is being eroded. Linking the phenomenon of social media to the decreasing capacities for attention and presence, we explore how to restore respectful relationships in a caring economy. Questions are asked such as, how do we reinvest in time in places, relationships, conversations with full presence? Why is this so important? How do we restore the quality of the social-community spaces? I felt super alive in this conversation, now challenged afresh to put my 'smart' phone aside and be with people/place.