Philip Ingram MBE is a former intelligence officer who served 26 with the British Army. Today he's the founder of Gray Hare Media working as a journalist, writer, consultant and mentor. Philp writes about current events from a spymaster's point of view. In this Spy vs Spy episode, Pete A. Turner and fellow spy Philip discuss day to day challenges and opportunities that spies face. One interesting aspect focuses on the exploitation of humans to collect on closed computer/IT systems.