It's not easy to become a solid Counterintelligence Agent. It's for sure a life defining challenge to become a Green Beret. So what does it take to master both skills? Pete Jensen has completed this journey. Pete Jensen was in D Co, 165th MI Bn when Pete A Turner was in the unit. Jensen left D Co before Bosnia to become a Green Beret...and that's where we have to stop telling that story, because "That's Classified." Jensen knows the spy game. Turner knows the spy game...this episode is apex Spy vs Spy talk.

Betina Anton is an investigative reporter. She joins Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show to discuss her book Hiding Mengele. Betina has close ties to this story. One of her elementary school teachers was the person who hid Mengele the last few years of his life on the run. Get Hiding Mengele at Amazon https://amzn.to/4epCdUh Betina Anton was born in São Paulo, graduated in Journalism from the School of Communications and Arts of the University of São Paulo (ECA/USP) and holds a master’s degree in International History from the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE). She has over 20 years of experience as a journalist.

Emery O'Leary is a Producer, Director and Screenwriter. Emery's projects include a short about the Modoc War that occurred during the 1870's in California. Also known as the Lava Bed War, the US military closed on Indians and began a conflict that quickly became a problem. Eadweard Muybridge photographed much of the conflict. The experiences of the Modoc and Military were captured in a screenplay written by Emery. Emery is from Lovely Benicia. He's a graduate of Benicia High School. That means Pete A Turner is going to work to lift up O'Leary's work. Further, Emery and Pete are efforting some of Pete's favorite projects. Watch This is Their Land a documentary short on YouTube at https://youtu.be/iJb91SDqNUQ?si=sYOWEaPx9WrPomQt

Peter Kerasotis co-authored with Felipe Alou, "Alou: My Baseball Journey." This book is the autobiography of Felipe Alou. He is the patriarch, truly, of all of Dominican Republic baseball in the United States. Think about that legacy. Every Dominican player draws a line directly back to Felipe. Get Alou: My Baseball Journey on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3REa2bi Despite Felipe's indelible mark on baseball, enshrinement in the game's Hall of Fame remains elusive. His playing career is good to excellent. His coaching career is short, but impactful...but his mark on the game in undeniable. Let's discuss. This is Peter's inaugural visit to the Break It Down Show.

David Eubank returns to the Break It Down Show with Pete A Turner. David is a former Green Beret who's post service work focuses on providing aid in conflict zones. He and his Free Burma Rangers have focused on war relief in Syria, Burma, Ukraine...basically, anywhere where there is a need, FBR goes to help. The bulk of David's mission is conducted in Burma. But, FBR ran to Afghanistan when it fell, and they'll continue to venture out where help is needed. Even if the war isn't frontline news, FBR is working to reduce harm and render aid.

Joey Santore a former Train engineer and punk rocker who autodidacted himself into a PhD grade naturalist joins Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show. Us folks here at BIDS love nature. Our pal Dave Raetz has brought a number of other naturalist guests to the show. When we stop and look around at nature, we're all struck with wonder. The land around us is alive. Things want to live and find ways to make do even in the most inhospitable places. Joey's work is captured in his videos, book, blog, podcast, YouTube channel. It all fits under the name, "Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't" Joey lives waaaay out in West Texas, you're gonna love this episode. A BIG smile and hug to cohost Dane Norton, Pete's youngest brother who joins us today on the show.

John Kiriakou knows from personal experience what it’s like to be imprisoned when you shouldn’t be. He was a CIA analyst and case officer from 1990 to 2004. In December 2007, John was the first former CIA officer to confirm that the CIA indeed waterboarded prisoners and had a torture program – approved at the highest levels of our government. As a result, Kiriakou spent eighteen months in federal prison – despite the fact that he never tortured anyone. John's background coupled with Pete A Turner's experience in the field ought to give us a fantastic episode with notes and experiences shared at the professional level. When the US goes abroad, it's awfully tough to make it behave or make fewer mistakes.

John Spencer returns to the Break It Down Show with Pete A Turner to discuss his latest findings during a recent trip to Israel. When Hamas launched a terrorist attack targeting a music festival in Israel John began traveling to the region to study in real time the evolution of urban warfare. Since John is a universally regarded expert/historian/academic in the modern war space, he gets unique access to the battleground and leaders from the region. Many opinions, many of them professional, contribute to helping us understand the conflict. Yet, John's influence has exploded over the past few years as he's examined the Israeli and Ukrainian conflicts. Why? It's the quality, depth and ground truth nature of his work.

DJ Severe is a long time friend of the show. During out first encounter at Dodger Stadium, Jon encountered the great Vin Scully. Frank SInatra Jr threw out the first pitch. And our hero's Pete and Jon brought the Break It Down Show to Dodger Stadium. Hat Tip to Elite Road Dog Brenna Turner who as always, kept things chill. Severe and the fellas has maintained a fast friendship getting together as often as possible. This includes Severe, Pete and Bryce Vine. Severe also hosted the most famous party at Pete's house. Then there are the NAMM sessions where the boys get together and rock the house. Severe and Pete will revel in Dodger's World Champion bliss on the Break It Down Show.

Andrews and Wilson write a LOT, they also join Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show quite often. When we last check in with Brian and Jeff, they were about to launch several new ventures. They not only write their own books, which includes more than one series. The best place to keep up is at andrews-wilson.com Get ready, these guys are prolific. They have their Tier One, Shepherds, Sons of Valor series. Plus, they right for WEB Griffin and Tom Clancy. If that's not enough, their work is being optioned and developed into a series. Jump into the Dempsey universe with book 7 https://amzn.to/40S5H5V We're particularly excited about the upcoming Act of Defiance another Sub Thriller that lands on the 40th anniversary of Hunt for Red October.