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Phone Calls With Clever People
By Shane Michael HattonBusiness
Phone Calls With Clever People episodes
- Cam Fink on how to be less sh*t on camera
We’re talking about how to be less shit on camera.
If you’re like most people, you probably don’t have any big issues holding a conversation with another person. But if that other person is holding a camera up to your face, then maybe it’s not so easy.
With the rise in AI platforms transforming the way we deliver written messaging, video is how we build trust, increase visibility and connect in a truly human way.
But to do that, we have to learn how to get better at how we show up on camera. And here to talk about that is Cam Fink.
If a bunch of people are happy together, Cam would like to be there. If they’re talking about interesting things and getting excited, even better. If they need help being happy and excited, Cam would DEFINITELY like to be there.
He also likes helping people bring out their best selves on camera.
Drawing on decades behind the camera - and a pandemic in front of it - Cam knows exactly how to bring out your best when showing up on video.
Connect With Cam
Connect with Cam on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/camfink/
Learn more about Cam and the Be Less Shit on Camera Course at https://www.camfink.com/
Connect With Shane
Connect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/
Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.com
Follow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhatton
Follow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhatton
Reach out and email me at [email protected]
50 min - Maria Thattil on breaking free from assumptions and living a truly unbounded life
We’re having a conversation about assumptions.
As humans, we often make assumptions about people from a distance, and these assumptions can be far from reality. However, when you find yourself in a position of leadership or in the public spotlight, where many assumptions are made about you, how do you ensure that you don't start believing everything that's said? How do you break free from self-limiting beliefs and live a truly unbounded life?
My guest is Maria Thattil, author of 'Unbounded' whose story can show us what it means to shake off assumptions, live true to who you are and make the world a better place through your influence and platform.
Maria is a multi-talented personality in Australia. She is Miss Universe Australia 2020, a published author, TV presenter, actor, speaker, activist, and creator. Maria's writing has been featured in various outlets such as 9Honey, Stellar Magazine, Buzzfeed, Body+Soul, Mamamia, and Women's Agenda. She has also worked with top brands such as Olay, Alfa Romeo, Clinique, Piper Heidsieck, and L'Oréal Paris.
Her book, Unbounded, guides readers on self-mastery by exploring the complexities of race, sexuality, gender, and identity. She has made waves internationally after coming out as bisexual on-air during her appearance on I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here! in 2022.
Maria is a campaigner for diversity, inclusion, LGBTQIA+ rights, mental health, and gender equality. She is a guest Host on Channel 10's The Project and a current panelist on Channel 9's Today Extra and Talking Honey. In 2023, she is set to release her own show and make her acting debut.
But beyond all of that, Maria is thoughtful with her words, generous with her time and a delight to be in conversation with.
Connect With Maria
Get Maria’s book Unbounded: Manifesting a life without limits from her website here: https://mariathattil.com/book/
Connect with Maria on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/maria-thattil-721ba3ab/
Follow along on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mariathattil
or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mariathattil/
Connect With Shane
Connect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/
Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.com
Follow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhatton
Follow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhatton
Reach out and email me at [email protected]
37 min - Shelley Johnson on team tension as something to harness rather than avoidWe're having a conversation about team tension.My guest is my good friend and founder of Boldside consulting Shelley Johnson. When it comes to tension in a team Shell believes that the best teams don’t resolve tension, bur rather that they learn how to harness it. Today I give her a call to talk about how to do just that.Shelley is the Boldside founder and HR Consultant you'll want by your side.Shell has led Human Resources teams for over a decade, coaching managers to become leaders people want to follow, build teams people never want to leave, and develop a culture that has people talking — and applying. You'll find Shell's work featured in many major publications around Australia.And when she's not doing that, you'll find her behind the microphone on the My Millennial Career podcast — an Australian Podcast Awards finalist — where she's helped thousands of people build a career they love via the airwaves.Sher's highly qualified in the important (but boring) stuff, with a Master of Human Resource Management, and Graduate Certificate in Organisational Development under her belt.Connect With ShelleyConnect with Shelly on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelley-johnson/You can hear Shell's whip-smart advice, cackling laugh and work rants here: https://www.mymillennial.money/my-careerLearn more about Boldside at https://www.boldside.com.au/Connect With ShaneConnect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.comFollow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhattonFollow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhattonReach out and email me at [email protected]41 min
- David Frizzell on living deliberately and lessons from over podcast 200 interviewsToday on the podcast we're talking about living more deliberately.My guest is David Frizzell, the host of Team Guru podcast. Having been a guest a couple of times on his podcast it is so great to have David sitting in the guest seat on this episode. With over 200 interviews under his belt on that podcast alone I wanted to know if there was anything that connected the interviews he has conducted. His response was that every episode could be connected through this theme of living more deliberately. I give him a call to explore what he's learned and just how we can live life with a little bit more intention.David Frizzell is a team, leadership, communication and change consultant. He has worked with a bunch of different organisations, across a range of industries.David is the host of The Team Guru Podcast. Since 2015, the podcast has grown from a couple of hundred listeners to more than 20 thousand per episode. David pretends that he does the podcast for the sake of his listeners - but really he does it to quench his own, selfish thirst for new ideas.The work he has done developing leaders and advising on change across large programs - from state government to multinationals - together with the ideas he steals from his podcast guests, has turned David into an opinionated bore.In September 2019 David swam the English Channel. He will tell anyone, in detail, all about it. Even if they don’t look interested.David lives in Brisbane with his wife and 3 children. The Frizzell family do not have a dog (or a cat).Connect With DavidFollow Team Guru on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/teams-guruListen to the Podcast on SoundCloud at https://soundcloud.com/teamguru or via Apple Podcasts at https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/team-guru-podcast/id1018700350?mt=2Follow David on Twitter at https://twitter.com/teamsguru or FaceBook at https://www.facebook.com/teams.guru/Connect With ShaneConnect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.comFollow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhattonFollow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhattonReach out and email me at [email protected]55 min
- Alessandra Edwards on what DNA can teach us about high performanceWe're talking about the DNA of performance.Can a line in an email get your heart rate rising? Do you find it a little harder to get started in the morning? Turns out Alessandra will know just by looking at your DNA.True high performance isn't shouty and showy. It is deep and solid. It is steeped in self-restraint and self-leadership. It is contingent upon attaining the highest level of self-knowledge while embracing the highest level of self-acceptance; it fuses self-esteem with self-forgiveness; and above all, it embodies limitless self-love whilst also practising the highest degree of self-intolerance.Alessandra Edwards is a mentor, trainer and author on the DNA of Performance, the science of how our genes can be unlocked for unstoppable vitality and resilience. She has more than 15 years’ experience working at the cutting edge of DNA-based performance and wellbeing programs for senior leaders, business owners and their teams.Her client portfolio includes senior executives from ANZ, Coles, DXC Technology, NAB, Shell and AustCyber.Alessandra is the co-author of Brace for Impact and a contributing writer to What the Hell Do We Do Now?, which became Amazon's #one best-seller in the business category earlier last year. Her third book, The DNA of Performance: How to Unlock Your Genes for Unstoppable Energy and Vitality is due to be published in 2023.Connect With AlessandraFollow Alessandra on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandraedwards/Learn more about at https://alessandraedwards.comConnect with Alessandra via [email protected]Follow Alessandra on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/alessandra.edwards/Follow Alessandra on Instagram at https://www.facebook.com/alessandra.edwards/Connect With ShaneConnect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.comFollow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhattonFollow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhattonReach out and email me at [email protected]49 min
- Tim Duggan on ideas, creativity and the future of workToday on the podcast we're talking about creativity.Many people think that creativity is reserved for a few brilliant people. My guest on the podcast today is author Tim Duggan and he says that everyone is creative, and in his words "stuff anyone who says otherwise!"At the time of recording Tim was in a small island in the Greek Islands and we took some time to have a chat all about creativity and the future of work.Tim is an author and new media entrepreneur. He has co-founded several digital media ventures, most notably Junkee Media, one of the leading publishers for Australian millennials that was acquired by ASX-listed oOh!media. Under his leadership, Junkee’s content agency ran the social media accounts for leading brands like Netflix, ANZ, American Express, Westpac and more. Tim’s first book, Cult Status: How to Build a Business People Adore, was named the Best Entrepreneurship Book at the 2021 Australian Business Book Awards. His second book, Killer Thinking: How to Turn Good Ideas into Brilliant Ones, explores creativity in the workplace. Tim is the Chairman of the Digital Publishers Alliance, an industry body that represents over a hundred titles from leading independent digital publishers, and is currently writing his third book on the future of work.Connect With TimFollow Tim on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/timduggan1/Learn more about Tim's books at timduggan.com.au/book/cult-status or timduggan.com.au/book/killer-thinkingFollow Tim on Twitter: https://twitter.com/timdugganFollow Time on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tim_duggan/Connect With ShaneConnect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.comFollow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhattonFollow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhattonReach out and email me at [email protected]52 min
- Callum McKirdy on neurodiversity and harnessing our collective differenceWe're talking about neurodiversity.This is an episode I know you are going to love because I am joined by my good friend Callum McKirdy to talk all about harnessing our collective difference. He believes that we spend too much time trying to be the same and converge in our work teams, yet our point-of-difference is in where we diverge. Today I call him to explore some of his journey and what we can be doing to leverage the essence of each person in order to harness our collective differences.Callum McKirdy is a speaker, author, mentor and facilitator specialising in workplace dynamics and behaviour. Over a 22-year career in and around the HR profession across Australasia, he assists leaders and teams to develop radically authentic workplaces by leveraging their uniqueness. Proudly dyslexic and ADHD-positive, Callum champions organisations to think differently about different thinking, and views the neurodivergent staff in every workplace as the innovative super workforce of the future.Connect With CallumFollow Callum on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/callummckirdynz/Learn more about Callum at https://www.callummckirdy.com/Follow Callum's on Instagram: instagram.com/callummckirdynz/Listen to Callum's Podcast You, Me & ADHD: https://www.callummckirdy.com/podcastConnect With ShaneConnect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.comFollow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhattonFollow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhattonReach out and email me at [email protected]52 min
- Rebecca Sutherns on the learnable skill of adaptabilityToday on the podcast we're talking about adaptability.After a couple of huge years of disruption you might be finding yourself feeling a little worn down from all the change. Well this podcast episode is good news for you. My guest is Dr Rebecca Sutherns who told me that it's possible for adaptability to be something that can energise rather than deplete us, and that it is a skill that any one of us can learn. Today I give her a call to chat all about how we can strengthen that muscle personally and also develop it in those we lead.In all my travels over the years I am yet to meet a Canadian that isn't one of the kindest humans I've met. And today's guest, Dr Rebeccea Sutherns is no exception. Rebecca is an insightful and high energy collaborative strategist and world class facilitator who has served as a trusted advisor to hundreds of mission-driven organisations, across Canada and internationally. Rebecca brings intellect, enthusiasm and varied experience in strategy development and adaptability when speaking, writing and mentoring. She is a skilled communicator, with a particular gift for helping leaders make wiser decisions faster. Rebecca is a Certified Professional Facilitator, frequent keynote speaker, and author of the books Nimble: Off Script but Still On Track - A coaching guide for responsive facilitation and Sightline: Strategic plans that gather momentum not dust.Connect With RebeccaFollow Rebecca on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccasuthernsFollow along with Rebecca's Twitter: https://twitter.com/RebeccaSuthernsLearn more about Rebecca at https://rebeccasutherns.com/Read Recbecca's Blog here https://rebeccasutherns.com/thoughts/Find out more about Rebecca's books at https://rebeccasutherns.com/books/Connect With ShaneConnect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.comFollow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhattonFollow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhattonReach out and email me at [email protected]45 min
- Cam Greenwood on pioneering and walking the unconventional pathWe're talking about pioneering.The status quo is far from the life we were created to live. That's what today's guest Cam Greenwood believes and is here to talk all about. Cam is a remarkable young entrepreneur that I have had the privilege of knowing for the last 6 or so years. I've watched him navigate the highs and lows of business and admire him as someone who refuses to give up when he gets knocked down. That grit and determination to keep walking the unconventional path has resulted in great success for his business Zorali which he has built alongside his wife Elise. Zorali is an Australian outdoor brand that's on a mission to get the world outside and today we're going to take a look behind the scenes of the journey.Cam Greenwood is the co-founder (alongside his wife, Elise) and chief pioneer of Zorali. Cam’s adventurous spirit has attracted an abundance of attention and he is recognised as one of Australia's most creative entrepreneurs under the age of 30 - being featured on Smart Company's ‘Smart 30 Under 30’ list.His passion for encouraging people to expand their thinking has also led him to share his unique view of the world across Australia & beyond on many different stages and forums.For Cam, life is an adventure. An invisible path even more exhilarating than the most breathtaking of hikes. And as long as there are more corners to explore, Cam will keep seeking what's around the next one.Ultimately, Cam’s goal is to inspire people to believe that all things are possible when you actively engage in a life driven more strongly by curiosity than by fear.Connect With CamFollow Cam and Zorali on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/camgreenwood/ and https://www.instagram.com/zorali/Learn more about Zorali at https://www.zorali.com/Join the Zorali Outdoor Club Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zoraliConnect With ShaneConnect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.comFollow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhattonFollow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhattonReach out and email me at [email protected]44 min
- Mo MacRae on developing on-camera presence to connect and engage with any audienceToday we're talking about on-camera presence.If you've ever had any time standing in front of a camera, you can probably relate to those moments when the red light goes on, and your mind goes blank. And when the words finally do come out, you can't help but feel robotic or awkward.Today I'm speaking with Mo MacRae, who is an expert in helping people develop their on-camera presence, and he says that now more than ever, how you show up on camera is how you are seen in the world. I give him a call to get some of the inside tips for connecting more authentically down the barrel of a camera.Mo MacRae is one of Australia's most in demand commercial directors, with over 25 years experience in advertising and film production.Mo won the million dollar screenplay competition, Project Greenlight Australia, with his brother Kenn, going on to direct their feature film “The View From Greenhaven”.He has since directed some of Australia’s most loved TV commercials - including Mother Energy Drink and the Sam Kekovich Australia Day Lamb ads - and most powerful fund raiser films for The Sydney Children's Hospital, Western Sydney University & Lifeline.Mo helps business coaches & consultants develop their On-Camera Presence to connect and engage with any audience & leverage the power of video to scale their business.How you show up on camera is how you are seen in the world - and Mo helps bring out the best of you, on camera, on cue.Connect With MoFollow Mo on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/mo-macrae-b4a94332/Learn more about Mo at https://www.momacrae.com/Find out about Mo's Video Courses at https://www.momacrae.com/store/on-camera-presence-2https://www.momacrae.com/on-camera-presenceFollow Mo on Instagram: ON-CAMERA PRESENCE https://www.instagram.com/oncamerapresence/Join THE VIDEO GREENROOM Facebook Group - Mo helps business coaches, consultants, & course creators leverage the power of video to scale their business https://www.facebook.com/groups/921535179243457/Connect With ShaneConnect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.comFollow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhattonFollow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhattonReach out and email me at [email protected]45 min
About Phone Calls With Clever People
From the publisher's feed
Welcome to Phone Calls With Clever People! A podcast focused on asking great questions of talented people to help us all become more effective leaders.
I‘m fortunate to know some very clever people. Now through the wonders of technology I‘m sharing their cleverness with the rest of the world by broadcasting our telephone conversations on helpful leadership topics.
Whether you’re an organisational leader, a business leader, a thought leader or aspiring to be any of those, this is a podcast that’s focussed on investing in you as you navigate that journey.
Want to get in touch to find out more about me? Visit www.shanemhatton.com or email me at [email protected]