In this episode, Kareem sits down with Anthony Rogers-Wright, a climate justice organizer, human rights advocate, and member of the Black Alliance for Peace. Anthony’s path winds from the streets of New York City - where he grew up as the son of Sierra Leonean immigrants - through the George School, a jazz composition degree, playing bass across Europe to fund grad school, and ultimately decades of frontline climate and justice work across the U.S., Latin America, Palestine, and beyond.
This is a wide-ranging, deeply honest conversation about the state of our planet, our politics, and our collective humanity. Listeners will hear about:
* Growing up in New York City and how its multicultural fabric shaped Anthony’s worldview and politics
* Why there’s no one-size-fits-all approach to climate solutions — and why imposing Western frameworks on the Global South replicates the very colonial relationships we need to dismantle
* The concept of energy democracy: why commodifying energy is a root cause of climate conflict, and what it would mean to treat energy access as a human right
* What really happened at COP30 in Belém, Brazil — the high hopes, the fossil fuel executives outnumbering developing-nation delegates, and the $15,000-a-night hotel rooms
* Why the People’s Summit that ran alongside COP gave Anthony genuine hope — and how its declaration, connecting climate justice to Palestine, indigenous sovereignty, and militarism, is shaping the road to the next COP in Turkey
* The upcoming fossil fuel phaseout treaty conference in Santa Marta, Colombia, co-hosted by the Colombian and Dutch governments
* How fusion energy may already be possible — and why there’s no profit motive to develop it
* The EPA’s move to reset the statistical value of a human life to zero — and what that signals about where we’re headed with AI displacement and a surplus labor population
* Why tech billionaires pushing Universal Basic Income may be less about benevolence and more about managing the social instability of 2.5 billion displaced workers by 2030
* The legacy of Malcolm X and Jesse Jackson, and what their lives teach us about solidarity across movements
* The Minneapolis ICE resistance — why Anthony calls it the most significant act of organized nonviolent confrontation since Dr. King’s Birmingham campaign
* Why mutual aid, not electoral politics alone, is increasingly the answer people on the ground are reaching for
* The election of Zohran Mamdani as NYC Mayor — and why a 34-year-old democratic socialist Muslim immigrant winning New York gives Anthony (and Kareem) real, tangible hope
Anthony closes with a reminder drawn from Angela Davis: freedom is a constant struggle, and you can’t take it for granted. Citizenship — in the fullest sense — is advanced work. Someone else’s vision of America will fill the vacuum if people of conscience don’t show up.
Whether you care about climate, justice, community organizing, or simply what it means to remain human in an increasingly inhumane moment, this episode will leave you thinking — and probably fired up.
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