JP from Minnesota joins the podcast to talk about the progression of patent and licensing laws in his industry; apple cultivation. JP talks about the story of the honeycrisp apple, and how it shaped the future legislation of the apple industry and agriculture as a whole. He talks about his concerns for cannabis breeders, and the possibility of a total corporate takeover of the industry if patent and licensing law doesn't form at a grass roots level. JP goes on to talk about new apple genetics out of Washington State University, and discusses the incredible financial implications of the type of patent legislation employed. The conversation shifts to hemp, and JP gives his forecast on the current state of the hemp market, and a possible impending market bubble. Jordan and JP round out the show by discussing what the average grower/breeder should be focusing on when it comes to genetic patenting, and self preservation.

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