Daniela (prefers she/her/hers pronouns) and Shaun (prefers he/his/him pronouns) discuss the differences between desire—like wanting your partner—and arousal—when your genitals are engorged and how to unwire the myth that these two responses go together.

Hear Shaun say, “It would be best if I understood myself. I mean, that's what would lead me to better clarity and probably more happiness” while Daniela says, “You want to believe that arousal equals desire. That would be nice, wouldn't it? But it doesn't.” Tune in as Daniela and Shaun talk about people as full spectrum human beings capable of so much more outside of binary thinking.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation consider how your body responds when your mind isn’t ready and how your mind may be filled with desire when your body isn’t aroused. Welcome awareness and acceptance of the beauty and complexity of your bodymind when it comes to sex, love, and relationships.