Two Types of People with Pat Sitkins

Players vs Spectators: and Choosing the Hard Road


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Angela Birch, owner of Focus Fitness doesn’t see the world the same way most people do.

When asked the core question, her answer was simple:

Players and spectators.

Some people step into the arena. They take risks, make decisions without guarantees, and choose a path that often feels harder than it needs to be. Others build a life around stability, security, and predictability. Neither is wrong, but they lead to very different experiences.

After 20 years in corporate leadership, she walked away from stability to pursue entrepreneurship, opening and rebuilding fitness facilities from the ground up. It hasn’t been easy. Sleepless nights, constant pressure, and the weight of decisions that don’t always make sense to anyone else. But as she explains, for some people, the “safe” path isn’t even visible. That mindset shows up in everything she does.

From competitive bodybuilding to building businesses, to writing her book Strong Enough to Stand Alone, Angela operates with a level of persistence that borders on relentless. Her definition of determination is straightforward: keep going. Even when it’s hard. Especially when it’s hard.

In this conversation, we get into:

  • The difference between playing the game and watching it
  • Why some people feel pulled toward harder paths
  • The reality of entrepreneurship and rebuilding from scratch
  • How consistency beats complexity in both fitness and business
  • The role of honesty, mentorship, and pushing others to be better
  • This one isn’t about a blueprint.

    It’s about recognizing which role you’re playing… and deciding if that’s actually what you want.

    About the Show

    Two Types of People is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by Bestselling Author, Agency CEO, and Executive Producer Pat Sitkins - exploring the patterns, decisions, and mindsets that shape high performers across business, sports, and culture.

    The show features conversations with contributors to the book Two Types of People: Insights from Top Performers to Help You Make Decisions, Act, and Grow and other leaders whose experiences bring the framework to life. The book is currently available for pre-order at all major retailers. 


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