Pneu Pneuma Godcast

In this part 3 of this 4-part series Norman Brown and Terrance Frederick discuss how “one Lord, one faith, one baptism” confronts denominational disputes over baptism wording and emphasizes a single way in Christ rather than extra rituals. They connect “one faith” to being brought into a shared, corporate faith through maturity in Christ, contrasting it with Western individualism and stressing identity in the body before individuality.

In this Part 2 of this 4-part series Norman Brown and Terrance Frederick continue to discuss how faith relates to vision, suggesting people cannot have faith beyond their ability to “see,” and that seeing comes from hearing God’s word. They discuss how everyone has faith, but it can be misapplied (idols, talismans, even the unified effort at Babel), making faith somewhat neutral until directed by devotion to God.

Host Norman Brown (“The Professor”) and guest Terrence Frederick discuss how faith works in this 4 -part series, emphasizing that “faith comes by hearing” involves personally hearing God (rhema) beyond the written word (logos) and beyond merely listening to preaching. They unpack Romans 10 and Isaiah 52–53, define faith as trust and conviction that leads to action, and share Norman’s testimony of buying a house in 2007 after sensing God’s leading despite losing his job, closing in 16 days. They explore faith’s relationship to vision, love, repetition in hearing the Word, and prayer, including the armor of God, the shield of faith, and the sword of the Spirit. They also address atheism, corporate unity of “one faith,” and close with encouragement to grow faith by hearing, acting, and praying.

In part 2, Steven Robertson shares how God taught him to “win people over, not beat them,” stewarding eachrelationship with humility and focus, including an early conflict with a poor leader who later became a close friend.

He describes learning to value the person in front of him, which led to unexpected global relationships and business opportunities. Steven explains his progression from coach to business leader by working diligently, serving in any task, building trust, and leading through clear expectations and accountability, while strengthening problem-solving, communication, perseverance, and gratitude.

He recounts the severe impact of COVID as he had to shut down the business he was about to buy, release staff, lose income, and downsize his home, choosing faith andstewardship in crisis.

Mentored by Adam Bower, he “leaned in” to speaking and training, refining his message through feedback, and ultimately stepped into full-time ministry while continuing corporate leadership work. He emphasizes mentorship, stewarding marriage like a tithe, and giving away his gifts to help others find identity in Jesus.

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Norman interviews Steven, a South African-born athlete and entrepreneur, about his upbringing in Johannesburg, compulsory military service where he played high-level tennis, and how apartheid shaped his desire to leave the country.

Steven describes learning more about apartheid in university, being inspired by Nelson Mandela’s release, and ultimately taking about seven years to secure visas and immigrate to the U.S. with his wife and two young children, starting with little due to South African financial controls and needing U.S. job sponsorship.

He shares how he came to Christ after college, experiencing baptism in the Holy Spirit and a profound encounter with God, later sensing a call to ministry. In America he began as a tennis coach, grew into business leadership, and reflects on spending 13 years searching for a church due to pride and expectations, eventually learning to pursue God over “experience” and the value of community and serving the church. #StevenRobertson

Norman Brown and Terrance Frederick continue their conversation about using “judgment” to decide people’s proximity in one’s life, starting with parenting advice on choosing children’s friends and extending to adult relationships and inner circles.

They distinguish loving neighbors from befriending them, stress evaluating character through conversation and behavior, and argue Jesus intentionally chose Judas, so betrayal isn’t a required pattern. They describe categories of relationships (mentors, peers, those ministered to) and emphasize personal capacity when helping others, sometimes referring people to others better suited.

Practical red flags include gossip, deceit, stealing, selfishness, dishonoring parents, isolation tactics, abusive conflict behavior, and bad reputations; they note modern social media can distort associations. They read multiple Proverbs about abominations (pride, lying, injustice, discord, etc.) and conclude believers should read and practice Scripture, stay humble and merciful, and recognize judgment can be mistaken.#JudgingVsCondemning

Norman Brown (“The Professor”) and Terrence Frederick discuss how to accurately judge a person’s character from a biblical perspective, motivated by a friend’s family situation involving harmful influence and suspected abuse, and aimed especially at youth vulnerable to peer pressure. They unpack Matthew 7:1–6, arguing “judge not” forbids hypocritical, unclear judgment rather than all judgment, and distinguish righteous judgment from condemnation. Citing 1 Corinthians 5–6, they emphasize judging professing believers who practice sin, avoiding close fellowship with unrepentant “brothers” living in persistent immorality, and settling disputes within the church rather than in secular courts. They stress studying original languages and define “ecclesia” as a governing assembly, asserting believers will judge the world and angels (Revelation 20). They note everyone makes judgments daily, warn that one’s measure returns, and cite Galatians 6:1 and Psalm 82 to call for gentle, just, non-partial judgments.#JudgingvsCondemning

Host Norman Brown interviews Christian rapper Kendall Williams, whom he first met in 2017 after Kendall won a contest at the Praise Festival in Olney, Maryland.

Kendall explains he was new to Christian rap then, but believes artists should jump in immediately and let God change them along the way. He shares his Virginia upbringing around hustle culture, a church-rooted childhood with a minister father, and how his parents split when he was 15.

After a 10-year run in the streets and a secular rap path under the name “Fast Money,” Kendall was jailed in 2013–2014 on weed and gun charges, faced a mandatory eight years, and began reading the Bible, ministering, and writing gospel rap; the gun charge was dropped, leaving him about two years.

Now married with two children, he has several projects including—The New Wave, The Next Wave, Trap Gospel and It Is Finished—which aim to reach youth and the hopeless through rap.

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Host Norman Brown and Terrance Frederick continue in part 2 discussing salvation as based on justification through Christ’s blood, arguing that deeds affect rewards and authority in glory, but not heaven or hell, if someone's salvation is real. They then debate abortion as the taking of a child’s life, critiques of believers supporting it, and whether making abortion illegal should mirror murder laws, including how penalties would apply to women, doctors, and others involved, and the risks of illegal procedures. The conversation broadens to how legislation shapes behavior and cultural norms without changing hearts, parallels with LGBT-related laws and “celebration” versus basic rights, and political strategy around identity and elections. They conclude that believers should prioritize influencing society through homes, churches, prayer, and personal example, while still engaging civic issues and training people to enter spheres of influence. #legislatinglove

Host Norman Brown (“the professor”) and co-host Terrance Frederick discuss “legislating love,” arguing that government and workplaces try to enforce behavior through diversity initiatives, sensitivity training, and scrutiny of employees’ speech, especially around LGBT issues, while also raising concerns about lack of compensation for descendants of American slavery. They contend love cannot be created by law and use Romans 13:10 and Galatians 2 and 5 to contrast justification by faith with “works of the law,” and to compare works of the flesh with the fruit of the Spirit. They explore Jesus’ summary of the law as loving God and neighbor, examine word meanings (including loving God with heart, soul, mind, and strength), and connect imagination and resources to worship. The conversation applies these ideas to social order, murder laws, abortion, remorse, and salvation versus sin and justification. #legislatinglove