In today's episode of Makna Talks, Teguh Surya & Uslaini Chaus talks about funds from Europe, facts of deforestations, and having 9 years left.

Uslaini Chaus, Director of WALHI, an Indonesian based environmental NGO in West Sumatera, has been speaking out about being cautious of environmental problems in Indonesia. Alongside Teguh Surya, for Yayasan Madani Berkelanjutan, they both fight for the preservation of the environment, and raising awareness to help Indonesians live a better, healthier life. Did you know that we only have 9 years left to help the environment before it’s too late? Did you know that the acts of deforestation are getting worse and worse by day? What can we do to help the environment and saving ourselves? We’ll help answer through this very insightful episode. It’s never too late to start. Sit back and enjoy! Listen now only on Spotify.