In today's episode of Makna Talks, Nia Dinata talks about life in nine years, normalizing minorities, and ways to not give a fuck.

Nia Dinata started her career directing music video clips and advertising. In early 2000, Nia expanded her creativity and created her own independent film company. From that day on, she’s known as the director and producer of numerous notable and influential movies—which received many awards and appreciation. In this opportunity, Nia shared her adventures beyond the screen. Listen now only on Spotify!