In today's episode of Makna Talks, Putri Tanjung talks about not having to impress anyone, defying the odds and living to her own expectations.

Putri Tanjung is the Founder of Creativepreneur and other businesses that she and her partners work on but for the past 6 months, she is known to be one of President Joko Widodo's Presidential Staffs. Many are saying that this wasn't a surprise as she is also the daughter of a successful businessman, Chairul Tanjung. But that's not the case, listen to today's podcast to hear the story from the lady herself and what is it like to be one of the busiest people at the age of 23 years old.