Welcome to episode #1051 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Dr. Sebastian Wernicke has built his career at the intersection of data science, artificial intelligence, economics, and decision-making. He leads the Data Science and AI team at Oxera, one of Europe’s leading economics consultancies, and has become widely recognized for his ability to make complex ideas about data both accessible and deeply human. Many people first encountered Sebastian through his memorable TED Talk, which cleverly used data to satirize TED Talks themselves, but his work has always been driven by a much bigger question: how can organizations use data to challenge assumptions instead of reinforcing them? His new book, Data Inspired – Building An Organizational Culture Of Inquiry For Lasting Transformation, argues that businesses have become too focused on being “data-driven” and not focused enough on becoming “data-inspired.” In this episode, Sebastian explains why more data doesn’t automatically lead to better decisions, why confirmation bias often causes us to use data to strengthen existing beliefs, and why the greatest value of data lies not in optimization but in transformation. We also discuss the promises and disappointments of big data, the rise of generative AI, synthetic data, AI agents, and why the hardest challenge facing organizations isn’t technological… it’s cultural. Along the way, Sebastian makes a compelling case that leadership is ultimately about designing environments where people are encouraged to ask better questions, embrace uncertainty, and use evidence to change their minds rather than defend them. It is a thoughtful conversation about data, intelligence, curiosity, and why the organizations that thrive in the AI era will be the ones that build cultures of inquiry instead of cultures of certainty. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – Introduction to Sebastian Wernicke and Data Inspired.
(02:52) – The Meta Nature of TED Talks and Storytelling.
(06:12) – Confirmation Bias and Data Interpretation.
(09:03) – The Limits of Data-Driven Decision Making.
(12:10) – The Concept of Data Inspired.
(14:58) – The Role of AI in Data Utilization.
(18:07) – The Promise and Pitfalls of Big Data.
(21:12) – Cultural Elements in Data Transformation.
(24:02) – Trust in AI and Machine Learning.
(26:52) – Human Nature and the Quest for Perfection.
(29:30) – The Balance of Autonomy and Control in AI.
(30:30) – The Rise of Synthetic Data.
(32:00) – Skepticism Towards Synthetic Data.
(34:54) – Exploring Personas and Assumptions.
(37:40) – The Role of Data in Decision Making.
(39:27) – The Complexity of Uncertainty in Business.
(41:52) – Rethinking Intelligence and Creativity.
(46:54) – Building Beautiful Questions with Data.
(51:30) – Navigating the Data Dilemma.
(54:46) – Cultural Attitudes Towards Privacy and Surveillance.

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Welcome to episode #1050 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Fredric Marshall has spent decades helping people navigate change. An entrepreneur, investor in AI startups, CEO of Quantum Learning, and advisor on leadership and transformation, he has watched multiple waves of technological disruption unfold from the inside. His latest book, Thrive – The Antidote to Future Shock, revisits Alvin Toffler‘s famous concept of “future shock” and argues that today’s anxiety isn’t a personal failing… it’s the predictable result of living through an era where change, information, and technological progress are arriving faster than most people can absorb. In this episode, Fred explores why the conversation about AI has become so emotionally charged, why younger generations feel a profound sense of uncertainty about their future, and why the real challenge isn’t learning new tools… it’s learning to direct our attention with intention. He explains why thriving requires more than technical skills, discussing the importance of agency, relationships, health, systems, and managing the growing tension between our digital and physical lives. The conversation also examines evidence-based optimism, the cultural backlash against AI, leadership in an era of disruption, and whether the pursuit of endless growth has reached its limits. Fred makes the case that while artificial intelligence will radically reshape work, the future belongs to people who can simplify complexity, think clearly, and consciously choose where to invest their attention. It’s a thoughtful discussion about resilience, technology, and building a life that doesn’t just survive change… but flourishes because of it. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – Introduction to Future Shock.
(05:57) – The Impact of Technology on Work and Life.
(08:48) – The Concept of Thriving vs. Surviving.
(12:04) – The Role of AI and Economic Disruption.
(15:14) – Navigating the Digital Layer and Social Media.
(18:09) – The Future of Work and Community.
(20:56) – Addressing Youth Concerns and Uncertainty.
(24:03) – The Balance of Digital and Analog Life.
(26:51) – The Quest for Enough in a Technological World.
(29:52) – The Madness of Constant Growth.
(30:41) – Evidence-Based Optimism and Humanity’s Response.
(31:34) – Historical Progress and Modern Stressors.
(33:10) – Dialing in Life: Eight Key Areas for Thriving.
(36:09) – Understanding Agency in a Complex World.
(39:51) – The Role of Environment in Personal Growth.
(40:48) – Leadership in a Changing Landscape.
(43:22) – Future Readiness and Cultural Shifts.
(46:52) – Youth Perspectives on Agency and Change.
(50:42) – Balancing Humanity and Efficiency in the Future.
(57:41) – The Importance of Attention and Time Management.

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Welcome to episode #1049 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Farid Mheir has spent four decades at the intersection of engineering, business strategy, and digital transformation. Trained as a microelectronics engineer, he helped pioneer online grocery commerce with IGA in the mid-1990s before building e-commerce platforms for major retailers across North America and Europe. Today, through his advisory firm, and as a faculty member at the McGill Executive Institute, Farid advises executives on AI strategy and organizational transformation. His new book, AI Mindsets – A Guide to Succeed in an AI-Driven World, distills decades of experience into thirty-one practical mindsets designed to help leaders move beyond AI hype and build organizations prepared for an era of intelligence abundance. In this episode, Farid explains why AI represents a shift as significant as the arrival of the internet, arguing that while the web democratized access to information, AI is making intelligence itself widely accessible. We explore what remains uniquely human in a world of increasingly capable machines, why wisdom, judgment, and experience become more valuable as intelligence becomes abundant, and how organizations must undergo a cultural, not just technological, transformation to realize AI’s potential. Farid also discusses prompt engineering, answer engineering, AI agents, software development, and why the greatest opportunity lies not in replacing people but in moving them upstream toward more creative and strategic work. Throughout the conversation, he makes the case that success in the AI era will depend less on mastering new tools than on adopting new ways of thinking about work, leadership, and the future itself. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – Introduction to AI Mindset and Intelligence.

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Welcome to episode #1048 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Tom Rath is one of the most influential voices in the fields of leadership, strengths, wellbeing, and human performance. A researcher and the #1 New York Times bestselling author of books including How Full Is Your Bucket?, StrengthsFinder 2.0, Eat Move Sleep, and so many more, Tom’s work has shaped how millions of people think about work, health, and personal development. His latest book, What’s the Point? – Turning Purpose Into Your Daily Superpower, challenges one of today’s most common assumptions: that purpose is something we discover once in a lifetime. Instead, Tom argues that purpose is built through everyday actions and by focusing less on ourselves and more on how we contribute to others. In this episode, he explains why the future of work demands a fundamentally different mindset as AI reshapes traditional jobs and organizations. We explore why responding to tasks is becoming less valuable than creating new ideas, why careers will likely become more entrepreneurial and project-based, and why younger generations are right to expect more meaningful work. Tom also discusses the changing relationship between employees and employers, the limits of personal branding and self-awareness, and why looking outward toward customers, colleagues, and communities ultimately creates more fulfillment than endless introspection. Throughout the conversation, he makes the case that the greatest opportunity in the age of AI is not simply becoming more productive… it’s becoming more human by asking one deceptively simple question before every meeting, every project, and every day: What’s the point? Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

00:00 The Evolution of Purpose in Work
02:54 Navigating the Changing Landscape of Thought Leadership
06:00 Reevaluating Work Relationships Post-Pandemic
08:59 The Quest for Meaning in Modern Jobs
11:59 Rethinking Career Paths and Opportunities
15:00 The Impact of AI on Work and Purpose
18:00 Redefining Purpose in Everyday Interactions
21:04 The Balance Between Personal Branding and Purpose
23:58 The Future of Work and Employee Wellbeing
30:36 The Changing Office Landscape
34:18 Exposure to Diverse Careers
36:12 The Importance of Broadening Horizons
37:32 Service and Community Engagement
38:55 The Shift in Job Perception
40:25 Rethinking Work and Experience
42:47 The Rise of Entrepreneurship
45:08 Creating Value Beyond Traditional Employment
49:30 Purpose in Organizations
52:12 Looking Outward for Well-Being
54:12 Advancements in Health and Well-Being

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Welcome to episode #1047 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Simon Rogers has spent his career turning data into stories that help us better understand the world… and ourselves. A former news editor at The Guardian, where he founded and edited its influential Datablog, Simon is now the Data Editor at Google, working with Google Trends, one of the largest publicly accessible datasets of human curiosity and behaviour ever created. He is also the co-host of The Data Journalism Podcast and a longtime advocate for open data, visualization and making complex information meaningful. His new book, What We Ask Google – A Surprisingly Hopeful History Of Humankind, explores what billions of searches reveal about our private fears, shared vulnerabilities, cultural obsessions and desire to help one another. In this episode, Simon discusses why search offers a uniquely intimate portrait of humanity… not the carefully curated version we present on social media, but the questions we ask when we genuinely need answers. He explains how searches surrounding grief, friendship, parenting, health and crisis reveal that people are often far less alone than they feel, and perhaps more compassionate than our public discourse suggests. We also explore Google Trends as a cultural and predictive signal, the communities formed through shared curiosity, and why being surrounded by data does not necessarily make us more insightful. Simon reflects on how AI is changing the language and complexity of our searches without fundamentally changing what humans want to know. What emerges is a fascinating portrait of search as a collective stream of consciousness… chaotic, vulnerable, curious and surprisingly hopeful. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – The Role of a Data Editor.
(02:47) – Exploring Optimism Through Data.
(05:57) – Understanding Human Connection Through Search.
(09:05) – Cultural Reflections in Search Trends.
(11:59) – The Intimacy of Search Queries.
(15:08) – The Power of Data Visualization.
(17:57) – Shifts in Search Behavior During Covid.
(21:05) – The Complexity of Community and Connection.
(23:57) – Echo Chambers and Misinformation.
(27:06) – Predictive Power of Search Data.
(28:19) – AI’s Impact on Search Behavior.
(33:28) – Understanding AI Integration in Search.
(36:12) – Data Richness vs. Insightfulness.
(39:01) – The Art of Data Storytelling.
(41:25) – Search Behavior and Societal Reflections.
(44:16) – Loneliness and Connection in Search Data.
(45:39) – The Future of AI and Search Engines.

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Welcome to episode #1046 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Dr. Liane Davey has spent her career helping leaders and teams perform at their best. As an organizational psychologist, bestselling author,  trusted advisor to companies around the world and dear friend, she has long explored what separates high-performing teams from those that quietly struggle beneath the surface. Her latest book, Thoughtload – Manage The Madness And Free Your Team To Do Great Work, introduces a deceptively simple but powerful idea: the biggest challenge facing today’s organizations isn’t workload… it’s thoughtload. While most leaders focus on reducing tasks and increasing productivity, Liane argues that the real drain on performance comes from the invisible cognitive, emotional, and energetic burden people carry every day. In this conversation, we explore why organizations have become obsessed with measuring outputs instead of outcomes, how constant urgency creates the illusion of productivity while undermining effectiveness, and why many of today’s workplace frustrations… from endless meetings to return-to-office debates to AI-generated “work slop”… are symptoms of a much deeper problem. We also discuss what thoughtful leadership looks like in an era of intelligent machines, why collaboration breaks down when people are cognitively overloaded, and how AI might eventually become a tool for reducing thoughtload rather than amplifying it. More than a conversation about burnout or workplace wellness, this is a discussion about attention, focus, judgment, and what it will take to build organizations where people can once again do their very best work. Liane is also the author of You First and The Good Fight and have been a guest of this show countless times. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – Understanding Thoughtload.

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Welcome to episode #1045 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Chris Bradley has spent more than twenty-five years helping organizations navigate strategy, growth, and long-term transformation as a Senior Partner at McKinsey & Company. He also serves as a Director of the McKinsey Global Institute, the firm’s independent research arm, where he explores some of the biggest economic, technological, and societal questions shaping our future. His latest book, A Century of Plenty – A Story of Progress for Generations to Come, challenges one of today’s most pervasive narratives: that humanity’s best days are behind us. Drawing on years of research, Chris argues that another century of extraordinary progress is not only possible, but achievable… if we choose growth, innovation, and optimism over scarcity and zero-sum thinking. In this conversation, we explore why economic growth remains one of the greatest drivers of prosperity, health, culture, and opportunity, and why so many people nevertheless feel increasingly pessimistic about the future. Chris explains the historical forces that created unprecedented advances over the past century, examines the demographic, energy, and productivity challenges that lie ahead, and shares why he believes AI could become one of the most important catalysts for renewed growth rather than a force to fear. It is a conversation that pushes back against today’s prevailing pessimism while offering a thoughtful, data-driven case that progress remains humanity’s greatest competitive advantage. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – Introduction to Chris Bradley and His Work.
(02:59) – The Evolution of Guitar and Modern Musicians.
(05:56) – A Century of Plenty: Economic Growth and Its Impact.
(12:03) – Reflections on Progress and Generational Optimism.
(17:54) – The Dichotomy of Growth: Opportunities vs. Challenges.
(23:47) – Imagining a Prosperous Future for All.
(30:47) – The Dangers of Zero-Sum Thinking.
(36:02) – The Need for Innovation and Productivity.
(44:24) – AI: A Double-Edged Sword.
(55:21) – Transforming Workplaces with AI.

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Welcome to episode #1044 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Steve Brown has spent more than twenty-five years helping organizations prepare for the future of technology. A former Senior Director and in-house futurist at Google DeepMind during the launch of AlphaFold, former Chief Evangelist and Futurist at Intel, entrepreneur and advisor, Steve has worked with global brands including Nike, JPMorgan Chase, Samsung, Disney and more to navigate digital transformation and the rapidly evolving AI landscape. His latest book, The AI Ultimatum – Preparing For A World Of Intelligent Machines And Radical Transformation, argues that AI is not another technology deployment but a fundamental organizational transformation that will reshape business over the next decade. In this episode, Steve explains why simply licensing AI tools is only the beginning, outlining the three stages organizations must navigate as they evolve toward becoming truly AI-first. We discuss the growing role of AI agents and digital employees, why leaders must rethink workflows instead of simply automating existing processes, and how organizations can prepare employees for a future where humans and intelligent machines work side by side. Steve also explores the importance of data strategy, change management, and responsible AI governance, while tackling difficult questions about surveillance, workforce anxiety, human creativity, and whether AI represents another technology cycle or something fundamentally different. Throughout the conversation, he makes the case that the real challenge is not adopting AI for efficiency alone, but reimagining how organizations create value in a world where intelligence itself has become programmable. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – Navigating the AI Transformation.
(06:06) – The Three Steps of AI Adoption.
(08:47) – AI in Journalism: The Human-Machine Collaboration.
(12:02) – Consumer Perception of AI-Generated Content.
(18:03) – The AI Ultimatum: Embrace or Be Left Behind.
(21:10) – The Role of Responsibility in AI Adoption.
(24:00) – The Future of Digital Employees.
(29:42) – The Future of Remote Work and AI Avatars.
(30:05) – Managing Digital Employees: A New Paradigm.
(32:35) – Types of AI Agents and Their Impact on Work.
(34:34) – Evolving Roles: From Accountants to Financial Advisors.
(37:09) – The Burnout Dilemma: Technology vs. Human Capacity.
(39:11) – Involving Employees in AI Design Processes.
(41:03) – Resistance to AI: Fear of Replacement and Identity.
(44:42) – Leadership Perspectives on AI Integration.
(46:36) – Creating Super Teams: The New Managerial Role.
(48:04) – Case Study: Nvidia’s AI Workforce Strategy.
(50:10) – Early Successes in AI Deployment.
(52:19) – Surveillance vs. Performance Measurement in AI.
(56:25) – The Need for a Healthier Work Ecosystem.
(58:24) – A Shift in Thinking: The Rise of OpenClaw.

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Welcome to episode #1043 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Nicolas Darveau-Garneau has spent his career helping organizations understand where technology creates lasting competitive advantage. A serial entrepreneur, former General Manager of Google in Canada, and then off to the Valley (where he still resides) as Google’s former Chief Evangelist, Nicolas has advised more than a thousand executives on digital transformation, AI, marketing, and growth strategy. His latest book, Be A Sequoia, Not A Bonsai – The Seven Growth Secrets of the World’s Most Successful Companies, challenges one of business’s most common assumptions: that efficiency is the ultimate measure of success. Instead, Nicolas argues that the companies built to last optimize for profitable growth, customer lifetime value, experimentation, and long-term resilience rather than short-term metrics like customer acquisition cost or return on ad spend. In this conversation, Nicolas (an old friend) explores why AI is forcing leaders to rethink not only their technology investments but the very way they measure success. He explains why human change management remains the biggest obstacle to AI adoption, how organizations can redesign incentives to encourage innovation, and why every company should be preparing employees for AI-enabled careers rather than AI replacement. The conversation also examines the future of work, the democratization of expertise across industries like healthcare and law, and the responsibility leaders have to balance profitability with human flourishing. Throughout, Nicolas makes a compelling case that the organizations best positioned for the AI era won’t necessarily be the most efficient… they’ll be the ones most willing to rethink how value is created in the first place. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – Introduction to Nicolas Darveau-Garneau.
(02:06) – The Journey of Evangelism at Google.
(05:54) – Shifting Marketing KPIs for Success.
(11:38) – The Role of an Evangelist in Business.
(12:47) – The Rise of AI in Marketing.
(18:31) – Optimizing Customer Acquisition with AI.
(26:50) – Navigating the Future of AI and Employment.
(30:21) – Envisioning AI-Enabled Career Paths.
(32:13) – The Future of Work and Human Purpose.
(34:08) – The Ethical Implications of AI in Warfare.
(36:50) – Balancing Profit and Human Values in Business.
(38:55) – The Optimistic View on AI Efficiency.
(40:39) – The Role of AI in Mental Health Care.
(42:52) – The Future of Healthcare and AI.
(46:49) – Navigating the AI Landscape: Optimism vs. Skepticism.
(52:19) – Preparing for an AI-Driven Future.

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Welcome to episode #1042 of Thinking With Mitch Joel (formerly Six Pixels of Separation).

Marcus Buckingham has spent more than three decades changing how organizations think about people, performance, and leadership. As one of the pioneers of the strengths movement, his research has influenced millions of managers around the world and helped reshape the way companies approach employee engagement and organizational culture. After beginning his career as a researcher at Gallup, Marcus became one of the driving forces behind some of the most influential ideas in modern management. His books include First, Break All the Rules, Now, Discover Your Strengths, Go Put Your Strengths To Work, Love + Work and countless others. He has built a reputation as one of the world’s foremost thinkers on human performance. His latest book, Design Love In – How To Unleash The Most Powerful Force In Business, takes that work in a surprising direction. Marcus argues that love isn’t simply a personal emotion or an abstract ideal… it’s the single most powerful driver of productive human behavior. In this conversation, Marcus explains why so many organizations have become increasingly transactional, why experience design has become one of the defining leadership skills of the AI era, and why he believes “experience intelligence” may soon become as important as financial or operational intelligence. It’s a conversation about leadership, organizational design, technology, and perhaps most surprisingly… why one of the least discussed words in business may become one of its greatest competitive advantages. Enjoy the conversation…

Chapters:

(00:00) – Introduction to Love That and Designed Love.
(02:59) – The Role of Love in Work and Life.
(05:51) – The Business Case for Love.
(09:11) – Transactional Nature of Work.
(12:09) – Experience Intelligence and Its Importance.
(14:59) – Designing Experiences for Love.
(17:59) – The Power of Attention in Leadership.
(20:54) – The Future of Work and Love.
(23:56) – Data, Belief, and the Business of Love.
(31:29) – The Love Factor in Business.
(34:56) – Surveillance and AI: A Double-Edged Sword.
(39:00) – The Importance of Control and Harmony.
(47:29) – Experience Making: A Collective Responsibility.
(53:41) – The Interplay of Employee and Customer Love.
(01:00:20) – AI as a Design Partner: A New Perspective.

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