Catching up with Grotbags Paul Roberts in Huntington Beach for a podcast. We talk about Paul's recovery from his leg injury after crashing in the dark while riding back from @epicbmx—mis-timing a curb and ending up on crutches, unable to ride for months.

We then dive into some of the topics we’ve seen on social media lately—Is BMX dead? With the industry in a downturn, we talk about how things were in the late ’80s and early ’90s when we were both part of the downtime after the ’80s BMX bubble burst. The riders and brands that stuck around during that period ended up in a good place when the industry bounced back in the mid-’90s.

We also dip into a bit of politics for the first time, with so much in the news since the election.

Other topics include a potential Neal Wood podcast, Paul’s days as Vans UK Team Manager, getting Martin and Stephen Murray on Haro UK, and a few old stories from racing in the UK in the ’80s and ’90s—including my dad not wanting me to get into a car with Paul to go to a race. And more.