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"She starts getting caught up in, like, the details of something that's very minor and not really related to this actual story. I'll just say, okay, and what did they say? Or, and so you went down to the blah, blah, blah, and what happened? I'll do things like that just to kind of keep her on message when she starts to get off message. But, yeah, it can be annoying. And I've been guilty of it, too."