Podcast Network Insights: Understanding the Business of Podcast "Networks"

Podcast Network Insights: Understanding the Business of Podcast "Networks"

By Greg Wasserman, Podcast Leader & Relationship GeneratorBusinessEntrepreneurshipMarketing
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Podcast Network Insights: Understanding the Business of Podcast "Networks" episodes

  • Protecting Small Podcasts: Networks for Indie Voices, Not Profit

    What happens when a podcast network is built around support instead of scale?

    Becky Mollenkamp created the Feminist Podcast Collective in 2024 after growing frustrated with how often podcasting rewards visibility, monetization, and industry status over community, accessibility, and overlooked voices. Instead of waiting for traditional networks to create space for different creators, she built a membership-based network centered on collaboration, shared values, and long-term sustainability.

    From flexible membership dues based on financial circumstances to a values-alignment application process, Becky’s approach challenges many of the assumptions behind how podcast networks traditionally operate. The network has already grown to more than 50 member shows, prioritizing support and equity over aggressive growth or advertising pressure.

    The conversation explores what it takes to build a mission-driven podcast network, the tension between sustainability and monetization, and why Becky believes independent creators deserve communities designed around mutual support rather than competition. For podcasters questioning whether success must always be measured by downloads, ad revenue, or scale, Becky offers a very different vision for what a network can be.

    Listen For:

    00:00 Membership Pricing and Values

    09:38 Intersectional Feminism Goals

    19:52 Promoting Member Shows

    20:48 A Unique Podcast Model

    30:13 Resource Library Overview

    37:41 Managing a Community

    43:33 Member Retention

    51:20 Celebrity Fatigue in Podcasting

    59:53 Balancing Growth and Sustainability

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: BECKY MOLLENKAMP, FEMINIST BUSINESS COACH

    LinkedIn | Website | Podcast | Threads

    Podcast rec: Off the Grid

    Book rec: Liberate Your Business by Becky Mollenkamp

    CONNECT WITH GREG WASSERMAN, HEAD OF RELATIONSHIPS FOR RSS.COM

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    Greg’s book rec: Return on Courage by Ryan Berman

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    1 hr 3 min
  • What Makes the C-Suite Network Paid Entry Unique

    What happens when the lines between television, radio, and digital content start to blur? And what does that mean for today’s podcast networks?

    Jeffrey Hayzlett shares a perspective shaped by decades at the intersection of traditional media and the modern, distributed podcast ecosystem. From how networks think about distribution and format to the business goals that drive long-term success, this discussion explores the real operational challenges and opportunities facing media companies today.

    Jeffrey’s career spans from corporate marketing leadership, including serving as CMO of Kodak, to launching early podcast initiatives at CBS, producing business television, and now leading C-Suite Network, a podcast network and company with hundreds of shows, with the goal of being in the thousands. His approach blends hands-on production experience with a sharp understanding of how platforms, sponsorships, and communities come together to build scalable, lasting networks.

    Listen For:

    5:36 Starting C-Suite TV Online

    7:44 Network for Business Leaders

    9:53 Using Podcasts to Grow Business

    14:51 Changes in Audio and Video Tech

    16:37 Content Timing for Streaming and Broadcast

    25:48 Importance of Context in Content

    28:04 Diversifying Content Distribution

    32:37 Building a Content Creator Community

    35:05 Serving the Elite Business Community

    37:45 Monetization in TV Network Deals

    41:29 Turning Interviews Into Content

    44:24 Joining the C-Suite Network

    53:28 The Future of New Media

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: JEFFREY HAYZLETT, CHAIRMAN AND FOUNDER OF C-SUITE NETWORK

    Website | LinkedIn

    Book rec: How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie - https://amzn.to/4vZWx81

    Book rec: The Greatest Salesman in the World by Og Mandino - https://amzn.to/4cYh6bU

    Podcast rec: This Week in Startups — Host: Jason Calacanis - https://pod.link/315114957

    CONNECT WITH GREG WASSERMAN, HEAD OF RELATIONSHIPS FOR RSS.COM

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    Greg’s book rec: Return on Courage by Ryan Berman

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    1 hr
  • Localizing Podcast Monetization Across LATAM

    What happens when the definition of “podcast network” changes depending on geography, and the rules of the game are nothing like what you expect from US podcasting? That’s the world David Roemer operates in, where running a podcast network in Latin America means being both an aggregator and an ad agency, adapting to a landscape with fewer advertisers, distinct cultural expectations, and major platform differences. This episode examines what it really takes to build, sustain, and grow a podcast network in an emerging market where ad dollars remain scarce, and creators still face an uphill path to monetization.

    As co-founder of Genuína Media, David Roemer has been at the forefront of Latin America’s podcast network scene for over five years. His background as a corporate lawyer fueled the pivot into podcasting, first with a homegrown show that broke through in Mexico, then evolving into managing a network of over 230 podcasts stretching from Mexico to Brazil and Spain. With deep ties to creators, platforms, and advertisers, David brings a clear-eyed, hands-on perspective to building a podcast network with limited resources and plenty of unknowns.

    Listen For:

    02:47 What "podcast network" means in Latin America

    04:25 From lawyer to podcaster to network founder

    17:47 The honest case for joining or not joining

    23:17 Why brands are the client, not podcasters

    32:57 Why video is now non-negotiable

    35:21 Spotify premium and the baked-in ad shift

    42:39 How attribution and conversion actually work in LATAM

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: DAVID ROEMER GONZALEZ, CO-FOUNDER AND CEO OF GENUINA MEDIA

    LinkedIn | Website

    David's Podcast rec: Relatos Nieros

    David's Book recs: The Palace of Dreams - Ismail Kadare

    CONNECT WITH GREG WASSERMAN, HEAD OF RELATIONSHIPS FOR RSS.COM

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    Greg’s book rec: Return on Courage by Ryan Berman

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    53 min
  • When Matchmaking Fuels a Podcast Network’s Growth

    What happens when your definition of “podcast network” evolves from a simple matchmaking idea to an intricate ecosystem connecting dozens of creators and advertisers? This episode explores how the real work of building a network often differs from the original vision, especially when operational complexity and changing industry conditions reshape your approach. Hospitality media entrepreneur Wil Slickers reflects candidly on the lessons, pivots, and persistent challenges behind growing and ultimately selling a podcast network.

    Wil Slickers brings a unique perspective from moving through hotel management into hospitality podcasting, eventually building and selling Hospitality.fm, a podcast network that scaled to nearly 50 shows across hotels, food, beverages, and travel. Today, he leads network operations for Skift, where he applies hands-on experience in niche content strategy, monetization, and long-term growth in the B2B audio space. His hands-on perspective covers everything from bootstrapped beginnings and production challenges to acquisitions and strategy within a larger media company.

    Listen For:

    03:58 From hotel manager to podcast host

    09:40 The matchmaking idea takes shape

    11:30 Cross-collaboration as the early network seed

    15:12 Audience fit before everything else

    18:37 On charging $200+ effective CPMs

    23:02 Starting over: niche, quality, one lane

    32:30 The missed opportunity in subscription revenue

    36:07 What changed after the Skift acquisition

    43:07 Who acquires a niche network — and why

    46:48 The three-sided negotiation no one talks about

    52:45 Where things are heading: Substack and long-form

    01:00:51 The case for just running a good business

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: WIL SLICKERS,

    DIRECTOR OF VIDEO/AUDIO STRATEGY | SKIFT

    LinkedIn | Website | Podcast |

    Wil’s Podcast rec: Acquired

    Wil’s Book rec: Superfans by Pat Flynn

    CONNECT WITH GREG WASSERMAN, HEAD OF RELATIONSHIPS FOR RSS.COM

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    Greg’s book rec: Return on Courage by Ryan Berman

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    1 hr 7 min
  • Building a Network by Removing the Roadblocks

    What does it look like to build a network around removing every obstacle that kills podcasts before they ever find an audience?

    Rich Butler started RAGE Works Podcast Network in 2014 after his own long-running podcast wound down and the people around him caught the bug. Rather than pointing them elsewhere, he handed them a blueprint and stayed in the room. What followed wasn't a revenue-first strategy. It was a production-and-distribution model built around making it easier for motivated people to create. His reasoning is simple and consistent: content is what grows a network, and the best way to get more content is to get out of the way.

    What makes Rich's approach distinct is what he refuses to optimize for. He won't take a cut of ad deals he didn't facilitate. He won't chase podcasters for their episodes. He won't guarantee listeners or money in the first conversation. The network exists to water plants and watch the garden grow…and he'll tell you that's exactly why it works.

    Listen For:

    03:08 Network as a Discovery Platform

    04:37 How My Take Radio Became a Network

    07:41 Why the Dual-Feed Model Still Works

    10:01 Revenue Without the Revenue-First Model

    13:04 On Downloads, Die-Hards, and Real Numbers

    16:25 What to Ask Before You Join a Network

    18:47 Removing the Roadblocks That Kill Podcasts

    23:53 Audio First, Video Second

    27:48 What the Onboarding Process Actually Looks Like

    31:04 The Jockey Runs the Horse

    36:54 Gary Vee Called His Bluff

    39:51 The Case for 10 Downloads

    44:02 Be of Service, Not a Gatekeeper

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: RICHARD BUTLER

    FOUNDER OF THE RAGE WORKS PODCAST NETWORK

    LinkedIn | Website | Website 2 | Instagram

    Rich's Podcast Rec: The Jay Ferruggia Show

    Rich's Book Rec: Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook by Gary Vaynerchuk

    CONNECT WITH GREG WASSERMAN, HEAD OF RELATIONSHIPS FOR RSS.COM

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    Greg’s book rec: Return on Courage by Ryan Berman

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    52 min
  • Success Through Prioritizing Purpose Before Monetization

    What does it look like to build a network around a purpose rather than a revenue model?

    Adam Bird started Heroes Media Group in 2012 as a place for veterans and military voices, and has spent the decade since expanding that mission to cover all community heroes: law enforcement, firefighters, first responders, and other "community heroes," anyone who aligns with the cause. The network grew not from a monetization plan, but from a commitment to positive, purpose-driven content at a time when most media was heading in the opposite direction.

    What makes Adam's approach distinct is what he actively refuses to optimize for. He's turned down six-figure investment offers and won't touch content that conflicts with the network's values, no matter the dollar amount attached. The business case comes second, and he'll tell you that's exactly why it works.

    Adam started in terrestrial radio around 2011 and transitioned into podcasting when he realized he wanted to tell stories without editorial constraints. Over the last decade, he has personally worked on more than 28,000 podcast episodes, built a full production and agency arm at HMG, and grown the network to over 50 active shows.

    Listen For:

    00:00 Finding Purpose Through Podcasting

    06:51 Helping Others, Finding Purpose

    11:22 Building Connections Through Collaboration

    15:58 Business Model Perspectives

    19:07 The Power of Networking

    19:58 Maintaining Network Support Over Time

    23:03 Unpopular Opinions in Business Trends

    28:41 Balancing Podcast Goals and Strategy

    32:01 Podcasting's Future: Big Buyouts

    35:11 Podcasting: Harder Than It Seems

    36:31 Lessons on Starting Small

    45:21 Finding Purpose Through Service

    46:16 Grinding Toward Life’s Purpose

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: ADAM BIRD

    FOUNDER & OPERATOR, HEROES MEDIA GROUP

    LinkedIn | Website

    Adam's Book rec: Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill

    Adam's Podcast rec: The Arms Room

    CONNECT WITH GREG WASSERMAN, CHIEF RELATIONSHIP OFFICER FOR RSS.COM

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    Greg’s book rec: Return on Courage by Ryan Berman

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    46 min
  • Stop Making Shows. Build Ecosystems

    What does it actually look like when someone from Hollywood runs a podcast network?

    For Aisha Corpas Wynn, an Emmy-nominated producer whose career spans scripted TV, unscripted reality, film, and the NFL Podcast Network, the answer is a masterclass in reverse engineering. She doesn't start with a mic and a guest list. She starts with the market, the mission, and the person, and works backward from there.

    Aisha breaks down how she thinks about building podcast networks from the ground up, what most podcast creators get completely wrong about joining one, and why her entertainment background gives her a fundamentally different lens than most people working in the space today.

    Greg and Aisha go deep on how Stoked Bros. Media is being built, athlete by athlete, show by show, with the same framework she'd apply to developing a TV series. They get into what it really takes to bring celebrity talent into podcasting (spoiler: fame is not a guarantee), how to think about rev share splits and network deals, and why the "hip hop model" of building an ecosystem is more relevant to podcasting than most people realize.

    Listen For:

    2:23 What "Podcast Network" Means: Cross Promotion First

    2:58 How Podcasting Became Its Own Sub-Economy

    11:06 Individual Brand vs. Network Ecosystem

    13:28 The Hip-Hop Label Model Applied to Podcasting

    16:07 Why Celebrity Doesn't Guarantee an Audience

    22:14 Building Stoke Bros: Differentiating Within a Sports Network

    34:41 The Economics: Funding vs. Rev Share

    45:15 Questions to Ask Before Joining a Network

    52:57 Why Your Wins May Not Be One for One

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: AISHA CORPAS WYNN, STOKED BROS PODCAST NETWORK

    LinkedIn | Website | Instagram

    Aisha pod rec: All In and The AI Chicks

    Aisha book rec: Psychology of Money

    CONNECT WITH GREG WASSERMAN, HEAD OF RELATIONSHIPS AT RSS.COM

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    Greg’s book rec Selling with Love by Jason Marc Campbell

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    1 hr 23 min
  • The Straight-Split Ad Model

    What does it look like to build a podcast network with no interest in making it big…and have that actually work?

    Jason Falls started the Marketing Podcast Network five years ago after being burned by a network that didn’t deliver on its promises. What he built in response is deliberately small, community-first, and structured around a revenue model most operators wouldn’t choose. The result is a network of nearly 90 shows that has grown steadily without a sales team, a growth strategy, or a capitalist bone behind it.

    Jason is the founder of the Marketing Podcast Network (MPN), a niche network built exclusively for marketing and advertising podcasters. He comes from a broadcast and radio background and now spends the majority of his time producing podcasts for clients, with MPN running alongside as a community he helped build and still stewards.

    Greg and Jason dig into how MPN’s equal revenue share works… and what it asks of larger shows. They get into the two promises a previous network made that they never kept, how MPN sells advertising without a dedicated sales function, and why Jason would start a video-first network if he were doing it over.

    If you’re a podcaster wondering whether a community-first network might be a better fit than a revenue-first one, this conversation is worth your time.

    Listen For:

    04:19 Evolving in Podcasting Challenges

    06:45 Collaborative Marketing Podcast Network

    10:10 Podcasting Profit Challenges Explained

    15:51 Embracing Podcasts Through Technology

    19:37 Efficient Network Advertising Solution

    24:54 Building Collaboration for Podcast Growth

    32:36 Podcast Analytics: Challenges and Limitations

    34:35 Podcast Tech and Network Evolution

    43:05 Building a Video-First Platform

    45:37 Own It: Closing Gender Gaps

    50:07 Jason's DIY Marketing Network

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: JASON FALLS, FOUNDER, MARKETING PODCAST NETWORK

    LinkedIn | Website | Facebook | X | YouTube

    Jason Book rec: Brand Hijack: Marketing Without Marketing Alex Wipperfurth

    Jason's Podcast rec: Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

    CONNECT WITH GREG WASSERMAN, CHIEF RELATIONSHIP OFFICER FOR RSS.COM

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    49 min
  • Why Curation by Editorial Standards Wins

    What would change if every podcast network made its integrity pledge public, and actually used it to decide who gets through the door? Building a network around editorial standards (instead of just downloads or scale) isn't the standard playbook, but that's where Dan Kendall's approach stands out.

    Dan Kendall brings decades of experience in health innovation and hands-on experience supporting podcasters. After starting in health tech, he became a full-time podcaster, then launched and expanded a health-focused podcast network, Health Podcast Library, developing rigorous selection criteria and testing multiple monetization models along the way. He'll unpack the pressures and choices behind curating science-based health shows with clarity and transparency.

    Listen for:

    05:29 Health Podcast Model Evolution

    16:04 Ethical Advertising and Trusted Referrals

    20:07 Healthcare Podcasting Innovation Summit

    22:15 Podcast Network Pricing Shift

    28:06 Success Requires Effort and Tools

    32:11 Podcast Growth Starts With Packaging

    37:16 Engaging Clients Anytime, Anywhere

    44:51 Rethinking Podcast Networks

    45:54 10X Over 2X Mindset

    51:38 Integrity and Dan's Network

    52:55 Time, Teams, & Connections

    CONNECT WITH GUEST: DAN KENDALL

    FOUNDER & OPERATOR, HEALTH PODCAST LIBRARY

    LinkedIn | Website

    Dan's Book rec: 10x Is Easier Than 2x by: Dan Sullivan

    Dan's Podcast rec: Speak Up for Your Health

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    54 min
  • From Social Media Agency to Podcast Network

    Can a million Instagram followers actually fill a podcast feed? How do you turn influencers into Podcasters?

    Podcast Nation co-founders Nadine Robinson & Clio De La Llave challenge familiar expectations about what a podcast network delivers, sharing lessons from their years helping creators, especially millennial and Gen Z women, build loyal audiences and sustainable businesses. Their on-the-ground experience shows just how much depends on the right fit, real partnership, and the daily grind.

    Nadine and Clio have worked together for 18 years, building businesses together, evolving from a digital agency, Booje Media, focused on social and influencer campaigns, to creating Podcast Nation. Their operational experience spans helping podcasters launch successfully, managing network relationships, and navigating the fast-changing demands of content formats. They've seen every side of how creators cross from social to audio and what real support looks like. Their approach is marked by a hands-on, customized model designed for long-term results.

    Listen for:

    00:00 Podcast Networks and Influencers

    10:01 Podcasting Requires Unique Skills

    11:02 Success: Niche is Key

    19:53 Show Development and Launch Strategy

    22:02 Tips for Podcaster Agreements

    27:36 Choosing Between Boutique and Large Networks

    34:54 Cross-Platform Branding Challenges

    41:17 From Social Media to Podcasts

    49:20 No Magic Bullet

    CONNECT WITH GUESTS:

    CLIO DE LA LLAVE, FOUNDER OF PODCAST NATION

    LinkedIn | Clio's IG

    NADINE ROBINSON, FOUNDER OF PODCAST NATION

    LinkedIn

    PODCAST NATION

    Podcast Nation

    Nadine's Book rec: Rabbit: The Autobiography of Ms. Pat

    Nadine's Podcast rec: Petty Crimes

    Clio's Book rec: Transforming Toddlerhood

    Clio's Podcast rec: Take Your Shoes Off

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    Greg's Book rec: Grit

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    58 min

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Podcast Network Insights explores the evolving world of podcast networks, however they define themselves today. Through candid conversations with founders, operators, and creators,…