Podcasts – Marathon Training Academy

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Podcasts – Marathon Training Academy episodes

March 21 Interview with Mike Wardian
In this episode we speak with Mike Wardian -the 51 year old adventure runner who recently set the record for fastest 50k on Seven Continents in Seven Consecutive Days! He’s also planning to row across the Atlantic Ocean.

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Michael Wardian short bio: Husband, Father, Ship Broker, Sponsored Elite Runner (sponsored by Teva), Speaker, Running Coach, Chess Player, Pickleballer, Beekeeper, Guinness World Record Holder, Race Director, Dog Runner. Wardian has set 25 Fastest Known Time running records in five countries and he races frequently at multiple distances. He has won national championships at 50k, 50 miles, and 100k. He has completed the 7 Continents Challenge three times, set a FKT on the AT, and has run across the US.
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March 11 How Angie Went from 5k to 50 Stater
In this episode Angie shares the story of how she went from struggling to train for her first marathon to becoming a Marathon Maniac, 50 State Marathon finisher, ultra-runner, and coach. We hope her story will be an inspiration to you!
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41 min
February 28 Remembering Jeff Galloway + Run/Walk/Run Method

In this episode we pay tribute to Jeff Galloway (1945-2026) who passed away on February 25th at the age of 80. Jeff was an Olympian, author of over 20 books, and the creator of the Galloway Run/Walk/Run method (also called “Jeffing”).
Hear an excerpt from our 2015 interview with Jeff; plus Coach Angie explains how to incorporate the Run/Walk/Run Method in your training.
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42 min
February 20 What it was Like to Run my First Marathon
In this episode we reach into the podcast vault and play a recording from when Trevor ran his first full marathon. This is an entertaining look at the joy and agony a first-timer feels, especially someone who once hated running.
After two years of hard work Trevor was able to transform himself from a desk potato to a successful marathon finisher. He ran the 2011 St. Louis Rock ‘n’ Roll Marathon with a finishing time of 4:31:40. He’s since completed 25 marathons and two 50ks.

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43 min
February 11 Ultramarathon Training Q&A
In this episode we are joined by Coach Henry Howard to talk about the myths and facts around ultramarathon training . . . and answer questions from podcast listeners.
Henry Howard was coached by Angie from 2014-2016 and was able to PR, BQ, and run his first ultra. Now he is a coach on our team helping clients reach their potential! He is a Certified Running Coach, 3:16 marathoner and has multiple Boston, NYC, and Chicago qualifiers. He has finished more than 45 marathons and ultras (50k to 100 miles) with some podium finishes. Most recently he finished the Dinosaur Valley 100k in 15:11!
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IQBAR brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text “MTA” to 64000.
AG1 Next Gen has new flavors: Citrus, Tropical, and Berry. Get a free Welcome Kit with your first order which includes AG1 Travel Packs, a shaker bottle, metal canister, and a bottle of AG Vitamin D3+K2.
Altra Running -Altra shoes are designed to fit the natural shape of feet with room for your toes, for comfort, balance, and strength. So you can focus on what really matters: Getting out there!
59 min
January 30Achieving Big Goals -Interview with Dean Karnazes
In this episode Ultramarathon Man Dean Karnazes shares the 4 P’s for achieving big goals and how he pushes through the tough miles. Plus, you will learn the history of the world’s first marathon (held in 1896). And we share details about the epic 2026 Athens Marathon Tour which will be co-hosted by MTA and Dean Karnazes!
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Athens Marathon Tour with Dean Karnazes and MTA. The tour starts on November 5th and ends November 13th 2026. Space is limited so please email us if you want to go!
Run Coaching. Work with an expert MTA Running Coach.
Altra Running -Altra shoes are designed to fit the natural shape of feet with room for your toes, for comfort, balance, and strength. So you can focus on what really matters: Getting out there!
UCAN -get the Trial Sample Pack for free with our link, just pay shipping!
Dean Karnazes has pushed his body and mind to inconceivable limits. Among his many accomplishments, he has run 50 marathons, in all 50 US states, in 50 consecutive days. He’s run across Death Valley in the middle of summer, and he’s run a marathon to the South Pole.
His list of competitive achievements include winning the World’s Toughest Footrace, the Badwater Ultramarathon, and winning the 4 Deserts Challenge, racing in the hottest, driest, windiest and coldest places on earth.
He’s the author of 5 books:
Ultra Marathon Man -Confessions of an All Night Runner
50/50 -SECRETS I LEARNED RUNNING 50 MARATHONS IN 50 DAYS
Run -26.2 Stories of Blisters and Bliss
A Runner’s High -My Life in Motion
The Road to Sparta -Reliving the Ancient Battle and Epic Run That Inspired the World’s Greatest Footrace

A NY Times bestselling author, he’s been featured on The Today Show, 60 Minutes, The Late Show with David Letterman, CBS News, CNN, ESPN, The Howard Stern Show, NPR’s Morning Edition, Late Night with Conan O’Brien, the BBC, and many others. He has appeared on the cover of Runner’s World, Outside, and Wired magazine’s, and has been featured in TIME, Newsweek, People, GQ, The New York Times, USA TODAY, The Washington Post, Men’s Journal, Forbes, The Chicago Tribune, The Los Angeles Times, the Wall Street Journal and the London Telegraph, to mention a few.
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January 18 A Marathon Success Story with Katie Low
In this episode we bring you a marathon success story with Katie Low -who was able to transform her training and achieve the dream of running a BQ at the California International Marathon. In this conversation Katie shares how she went from being chronically fatigued and under-fueled to having more energy for training and running a marathon without hitting the wall!
Katie works as a character animator at Walt Disney Animation Studios and is co-host of the Animation Happy Hour Podcast.
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53 min
January 08The Book Episode: Our Top Picks from 2025
This is our annual book episode! Angie and Trevor discuss the books they enjoyed in 2025– top picks for both fiction and nonfiction.
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MetPro.co -See what it’s like working with your own metabolic coach.
Altra Running -Altra shoes are designed to fit the natural shape of feet with room for your toes, for comfort, balance, and strength. So you can focus on what really matters: Getting out there!
AG1 Next Gen has new flavors: Citrus, Tropical, and Berry. Get a free Welcome Kit with your first order which includes AG1 Travel Packs, a shaker bottle, metal canister, and a bottle of AG Vitamin D3+K2.
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The Book Episode: Our Top Reads in 2025
Angie got through a total of 241 books in 2025. (95 fiction and 146 nonfiction)(audio = 144, hardcopy = 94, ebook = 3).
Authors We Interviewed on the Podcast
Here are the books we featured on the podcast this year. See links to the author interviews.
Think Like a Runner by Jeff Horowitz
How to Run the Perfect Race by Matt Fitzgerald
The Norwegian Method by Brad Culp
The Explorer’s Gene by Alex Hutchinson
Ballistic by Henry Abbott
Extreme Balance by Joe DeSena
The Runaway Housewives of the Appalachian Trail by Kitty Robinson
Fuel for Thought by Renee McGregor
Don’t Call it a Comeback by Keira D’Amato
Lootie’s World Run by Marie Leautey
The Running Ground by Nicolas Thompson

Angie’s Top 10 Non-Fiction Reads:
The Art of Memoir by Mary Karr
Memoir is one of my favorite genres and this book takes a peak behind the scenes on writing an engaging memoir. In fact, Mary Karr weaves in so many personal anecdotes that it doesn’t feel like a how-to book at all. Some of the core principles she talks about have to do with dealing with the truth as you remember it, turning vulnerability into art, and finding your unique story. Everyone from the casual reader to someone who wants to write a memoir will enjoy this book.
Awake by Jen Hatmaker
I’ve followed Jen Hatmaker on Instagram for a number of years and she has a very funny and relatable way of sharing her life. Her latest book is a memoir and talks about the dissolution of her 25 year marriage and how she had to come awake to many important areas in her life as a result.
Bad Therapy- Why The Kids Aren’t Growing Up by Abigail Shrier
The author is an investigative journalist who argues that aspects of the mental health industry is harming American children by over-diagnosing and over-treating normal struggles. It’s important to get children the mental health help that they need but Shrier warns that normal developmental challenges and emotions are sometimes mislabeled as mental disorders which can lead children to adopt an “illness identity.”
It Didn’t Start With You -How Inherited Family Trauma Shapes Who We Are and How to End the Cycle by Mark Wolynn
This book talks about how trauma and epigenetic are linked. Trauma can change how our genes work and influence stress responses, health, and mood and these alterations can be passed down to future generations, which can help explain intergenerational trauma. This was a very eye opening book and helpful for anyone processing struggles linked to family history.
The Marvelous Pigness of Pigs by Joel Salatin
Since reading Michael Pollan’s book, The Omnivore’s Dilemma, I’ve been working on getting the meat our family eats from ethically sustainable sources. Joel Salatin, owner and operator of Polyface Farms, makes the case for how farming and ranching practices need to change (for the good of the environment, the animals, the farmer, and society in general).
Inner Excellence by Jim Murphy
This is a book that was first published back in 2009 and was updated in 2020. It has been used by many professional athletes and high achievers to develop a stronger mental and emotional game. NFL player, A.J. Brown of the Philadelphia Eagles, was filmed reading this book on the sidelines of a January 2025 playoff game and the book started selling thousands of copies. Some of the principles in the book that resonated with me were detaching self-worth from outcomes so that your identity isn’t tied to results or achievements. Instead of asking, “How did I do?” Ask, “What did I learn?” Another important take-away was learning to gain control over my inner world. We don’t have to believe everything our mind tells us. Yes, we should recognize emotions and thoughts but then come back to our core values to develop self-mastery.
Estrogen Matters -Why Taking Hormones in Menopause Can Improve Women’s Well-Being and Lengthen Their Lives- Without Raising the Risk of Breast Cancer (Revised and Updated) by Avrum Bluming and Carol Tavris
As a woman in perimenopause I’ve been educating myself on how to make this transition in life work for me. As a result I started using Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) two years ago and it has improved my life physically, mentally, and emotionally. Thankfully the FDA removed the black box warning on HRT in 2025 after years of misinformation. This book is a must read for women in their mid-30’s and up, those who have experienced surgical menopause, or anyone who wants to understand the role of estrogen more completely.
From Strength to Strength– Finding Success, Happiness, and Deep Purpose in the Second Half of Life by Arthur C. Brooks
Brooks is a Harvard professor and happiness columnist for The Atlantic. He draws on philosophy, social science, biography, and spirituality to offer a helpful roadmap for aging well in the second half of life. In order to embrace, and not fight, the inevitable decline we need to redefine success (moving away from being primarily validated by money or job titles) and look to internal measures like a deeper sense of purpose, wisdom, strong relationships, and service to others.
Nuclear War: A Scenario by Annie Jacobson
Annie Jacobson is one of those authors from which I will read anything she writes. In this rather bleak (but fascinating) book she lays out the history of nuclear programs throughout the world and presents a scenario in which nuclear weapons are used. Spoiler alert- there are no good outcomes.
Breath- The New Science of a Lost Art by James Nestor
I’ve struggled with allergies since childhood, dealing with a lot of nasal congestion. As a result I was a mouth breather and this book challenged me to take a look at my breathing patterns and make some changes. Over the course of a year I trained myself to breathe through my nose during the day (but nighttime was a bigger challenge). A few months ago I started using mouth tape at night (and an airflow clip nasal dilator called Snore Less Now to open up my airway). I’ve experienced better mouth hygiene and deeper sleep as a result.
Honorable Mentions (nonfiction)
Hidden Potential by Adam Grant
All the Way to the River by Elizabeth Gilbert
Slow Productivity by Cal Newport
Evidence Not Seen by Darlene Deibler Rose
Revenge of The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell
The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez
Everything is Tuberculosis by John Green
You Could Make This Place Beautiful by Maggie Smith
The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher
Angie’s Top 10 Fiction Reads:
The Grey Wolf by Louise Penny (#19 in the Armand Gamache series) and The Black Wolf (#20 in this series)
If you enjoy mysteries and thrillers this series is excellent. I’ve particularly enjoyed listening to them on audiobook since I’m not a French speaker and would probably mispronounce many names and places otherwise.
The Life Impossible by Matt Haig
I’ve enjoyed every book that author Matt Haig has written and this one was no exception. The Life Impossible follows a retired math teacher named Grace who is grieving the loss of her husband and son. She receives an unexpected inheritance which forces her outside of her comfort zone, helping her to deal with her past and find new purpose for the future.
Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver
This book is a modern retelling of Charles Dicken’s David Coperfield. It follows a boy named Damon Fields who is born into poverty in modern rural Appalachia. He has a very tumultuous life particularly because of the weakness of the foster care system. The book deals with some very heavy subjects but it’s ultimately a story of resilience and the power of finding hope in community and through art.
The Burning White by Brent Weeks
This is the fifth and final book in the Lightbringer Series, a modern fantasy set in a world governed by light and the magic of Chromaturgy. In this world, some people called drafters have the ability to harness light to create a physical substance called “luxin.” Each color has unique powers and identity and the drafter is changed over time.
Red Rising Series by Pierce Brown
My teens had read this series a few years ago so I was a bit late to the game. But once I finished the first book, Red Rising, I devoured the other five in this fantasy/sci-fi series and am eagerly waiting for the final book to be released in the summer of 2026. The series centers on class warfare because of a rigid caste system and the main character gets involved in an attempted revolution. This fast paced series is full of action and violence and is set in space.
The Measure by Nikki Erlick
In this book everyone who reaches a specific age receives a box revealing their lifespan. The story follows eight people who wrestle with the decision whether to open their boxes or not and what to do with the information they get. Ultimately it’s an uplifting book that encourages us to live life to the fullest.
Twice by Mitch Albom
This is a magical realism novel about a boy named Alfie who discovers that he gets two chances at everything in his life. It has a very engaging storyline (which kept me guessing until the end). It really made me see even more value in imperfection and the growth that comes from learning.
Marble Hall Murders by Anthony Horowitz
This mystery follows freelance editor Susan Ryleland who finds herself unwillingly entangled in the death of an author whose book she is working on. I enjoy a mystery that keeps me guessing.
The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny by Kiran Desai
I enjoyed the audiobook version of this book which follows the story of Sonia and Sunny who are both Indian immigrants to the United States and who are navigating love, family, country, class, and race.
Trevor’s Top Reads in 2025:
Trevor managed to finish 41 books last year. These ones rose to the top:
How the Irish Saved Civilization -The Untold Story of Ireland’s Heroic Role from the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe by Thomas Cahill. Basically, the Irish saved civilization because their monasteries preserved classical texts, learning, and book making after the fall of the Roman Empire. Irish monks later established monasteries on continental Europe which became centers of learning.
American Nations -A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America by Colin Woodard. This was a paradigm shaping book and provides the best explanation that I’ve heard for regional differences in the USA.
As You Wish -Inconceivable Tales from the Making of The Princess Bride (1987) by Cary Elwes. If you love the movie, listen to the audio book as Cary Elwes and other cast members share behind-the-scenes stories.
The Shortest History of Ancient Rome -A Millennium of Western Civilization, from Kingdom to Republic to Empire: A Retelling for Our Times by Ross King. Trevor is a big fan of the Shortest History Series because they provide short overviews without getting too myopic or tedious.
Mark Twain by Ron Chernow. This is a 1,200 page tome or 45 hours on audio book. Fun fact! Twain smoked between 22-40 cigars per day. Let’s end with some Mark Twain quotes:
“The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don’t want, drink what you don’t like, and do what you’d druther not.”
“Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don’t mind, it doesn’t matter”.
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them”.
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January 01 Top Running Stories from 2025
It’s time for our annual Year In Review where we take a look back at the top records, breakthroughs, and notable stories to come out of the running world in 2025. We bring you both the inspiring and the bizarre, it’s all in here!
Links Mentioned in This Episode
Run Coaching. Work with an expert MTA running Coach.
Join the Academy and access our new course Optimizing Your Running Form by Coach Athena!
Altra Running -Altra shoes are designed to fit the natural shape of feet with room for your toes, for comfort, balance, and strength. So you focus on what really matters: Getting out there.
AG1 Next Gen has new flavors: Citrus, Tropical, and Berry. Get a free Welcome Kit with your first order which includes 5 AG1 Travel Packs, a shaker bottle, metal canister, and a bottle of AG Vitamin D3+K2.
MetPro.co -For the first time ever, MetPro is offering MTA listeners a full 30-day experience for just $95 with absolutely no strings attached! See what it’s like working with your own metabolic coach. Limited to the first 30 people.
46 min
December 21, 2025 Running Form Q&A with Coach Athena
In this episode Coach Athena joins the podcast to answer questions about optimizing running form. Athena ran her first marathon in 2002 and she learned some lessons the hard way! Listen as she answers questions about over-striding, heel striking, glute activation, core strength, proper form while running hills, and if it makes sense to tinker with your natural running form. Enjoy!
Links Mentioned in This Episode
Run Coaching. Work with an expert MTA running Coach.
Join the Academy and access our new course Optimizing Your Running Form by Coach Athena!
Joint Health Plus by Previnex -prevention is the best medicine and you need to protect your joint cartilage from breakdown. Get 30% off during their Black Friday Sale (no coupon code needed) or use code MTA for 15% off your first order the rest of the year.
Altra Running -Altra shoes are designed to fit the natural shape of feet with room for your toes, for comfort, balance, and strength. So you focus on what really matters: Getting out there.
IQBAR brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text “MTA” to 64000.
AG1 Next Gen has new flavors: Citrus, Tropical, and Berry. Get a free Welcome Kit with your first order which includes 5 AG1 Travel Packs, a shaker bottle, metal canister, and a bottle of AG Vitamin D3+K2.

Coach Athena has a Masters degree in Exercise Science and Health Promotion and is an Exercise Physiologist. She is also a RRCA Level 2 Certified Running Coach, UESCA Ultra Run Coach a Certified Personal Trainer, Corrective Exercise Specialist, Performance Enhancement Specialist, and Certified Coach in Menopause for Athletes and Women Are Not Small Men courses and Menopause Fitness Specialist. She has completed 18+ marathons (5 Boston qualifiers), 11+ ultras, countless half marathons and numerous obstacle race 1st place finishes. She lives and trains in San Antonio, Texas.
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