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  • Are you normal? What even is normal?

    This week Gus and Caitlin discuss what it means to be normal, where the concept comes from, and the impact that it has on the design of technological systems like proctoring systems and emotion recognition.

    Links/Further Reading

    • Normal People by Ian Hacking: ⁠https://www.scribd.com/document/259318963/Hacking-1996-Normal-People⁠

    • English heritage on the history of eugenics in Britain and Francis Galton: ⁠https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/blue-plaques/blue-plaque-stories/eugenics/⁠

    • The Grammar of Society by Christina Bicchieri: ⁠https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227389527_The_Grammar_of_Society⁠

    • Extract from Discipline and Punish by Foucault: ⁠https://foucault.info/documents/foucault.disciplineAndPunish.panOpticism/

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    • Light, Camera, Surveillance: Technology in film

      From Spiderman, to Toy Story, to One Night Only, this week we’re talking about some of the summers biggest and weirdest movies, as we think about the use of technology and surveillance in film.

      Links

      Silicon valley has a science fiction problem: https://aeon.co/essays/silicon-valley-has-a-science-fiction-problem

      One night only

      • Guardian review: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/aug/05/one-night-only-movie-review
      • NY Times review: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/05/movies/one-night-only-review.html
      • Movies we watched in order discussed:

        • Spiderman: Brand New Day and Spiderman: Far from Home

        • Coyote Vs. Acme

        • Toy Story 5 (and Toy Story 3)

        • One Night Only

        • Super Mario Galaxy (Derogatory)

        • Minions and Monsters

        • Project Hail Mary

        • The Odyssey

        • Devil Wears Prada 2

        • "The Box" Brooklyn 99 S5 E14

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        • How is militarisation shaping civic spaces?

          This week we’re talking about how the militarisation of tech is shaping civic spaces and what ‘dual use’ technology actually means with Sophie from Corporate Watch.

          Links

          Corporate watch: What's driving the militarisation of tech - and what can we do about it: https://corporatewatch.org/whats-driving-the-militarisation-of-tech-and-what-we-can-do-about-it/

          Case studies and info about military tech companies: https://privacyinternational.org/military-tech-companies

          Skydio case study: https://privacyinternational.org/report/5734/dual-use-tech-skydio-example

          Axon taser drones for schools: https://www.wired.com/story/axon-taser-drones-ethics-board/

          Skydio/The Verge podcast: https://www.theverge.com/podcast/949195/skydio-ceo-adam-bry-autonmous-drones-china-red-lines-military

          BAE systems case study: https://privacyinternational.org/report/5766/dual-use-tech-bae-systems-example

          Pokemon go:

          -> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/12/pokemon-go-data-trained-ai-that-could-assist-military-drones-in-war-zones

          Niantic sell games division including Pokemon Go to Scopely:

          https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardnieva/2025/05/21/niantic-scopely-pokemon-go/

          Elbit systems case study: https://privacyinternational.org/report/5735/dual-use-tech-elbit-example

          Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) case study including their relationship with EU Horizon funding: https://privacyinternational.org/report/5703/dual-use-tech-israel-aerospace-industries-iai-example

          Airbus case study: https://privacyinternational.org/report/5720/dual-use-tech-airbus-example

          Leonardo case study: https://privacyinternational.org/report/5733/dual-use-tech-leonardo-example

          Proscription of Palestine Action: https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/issue/breaking-down-the-court-of-appeal-judgment-on-palestine-actions-proscription/

          Elbit systems factory raid: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce950111xk7o

          Elbit systems factory close down: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-defense-giant-elbit-said-to-quietly-shut-down-uk-plant-targeted-by-activists/

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        • Human testing: Militarised technology across Southwest Asia and North Africa

          This week we're talking to Marianne from SMEX about their new report looking at the differing dynamics of producing, testing, and deployment of militarized technology across the Southwest Asia and Northern African region (SWANA).

          Links

          • Report - ⁠Produced, tested, deployed: the Miltarisation of technology in the SWANA region⁠

          • Vodafone in Egypt story: ⁠https://www.theguardian.com/business/2011/jul/26/vodafone-access-egypt-shutdown⁠

          • Lebanon and Israel leaflet drop: ⁠https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2026/03/13/israeli-warplanes-drop-leaflets-over-beirut-causing-panic-⁠

          • More about QR code leaflet drop: ⁠https://smex.org/smex-warns-of-risks-related-to-scanning-qr-codes-on-israeli-leaflets/⁠

          • More about the data security problem in Lebanon: ⁠https://smex.org/lebanons-data-security-problem-explained/⁠

          • Open Season - PI's old report on Syria: ⁠https://privacyinternational.org/report/1016/open-season-building-syrias-surveillance-state⁠

          • PI's Militarisation of Tech project: ⁠https://privacyinternational.org/campaigns/militarisation-of-tech⁠

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          • Foreign Keys: Travel Surveillance

            This week we're discussing borders, biometrics and more, as we take a look at what kind of surveillance you might experience if you're traveling to the World Cup, or to the EU schengen area.

            Links

            World Cup: ⁠https://privacyinternational.org/long-read/5759/moving-goalposts-football-facial-recognition-and-expansion-surveillance⁠

            USA

            Trump Administration: ⁠https://privacyinternational.org/news-analysis/5713/trump-administration-wants-your-dna-and-social-media⁠

            Airport Phone searches: ⁠https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/travel/airport-border-phone-search.html⁠

            Customs and Border Protection phone searches: ⁠https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority/border-search-electronic-devices⁠

            Snooperbowl 2000/2001 NFL season: https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/firm-defends-snooper-bowl-technology⁠

            Omar Artan, the Somali Referee not allowed in to the US: ⁠https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cnv9drg0qzgo⁠

            Some more info on the Iranian team's travel restrictions: ⁠https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/iran-thank-tijuana-after-world-cup-exit-support-mexico-second-team-2026-06-30/⁠

            The EU's database complex - the EES and ETIAS

            PI on EU travel surveillance from 2020: ⁠https://privacyinternational.org/explainer/4119/travel-surveillance-eu⁠

            Statewatch on the ETIAS: ⁠https://statewatch.org/news/2026/april/europe-s-uncertain-plans-for-rolling-out-the-automated-border-system-etias/⁠

            Statewatch's full report: ⁠https://statewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/sw-automated-suspicion-full.pdf⁠

            Statewatch on expanding EU stravel surveillance: ⁠https://statewatch.org/news/2026/january/eu-member-states-want-to-expand-police-surveillance-of-travel/⁠

            Court cases against Passenger Name Record directive: ⁠https://freiheitsrechte.org/en/themen/freiheit-im-digitalen-zeitalter/nopnr-en

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            UN Counter Terror
            PI's Travellers' Surveillance report from 2024⁠: https://privacyinternational.org/sites/default/files/2024-12/PI Travellers surveillance report dec 2024_0.pdf⁠

            PI's briefing: ⁠https://privacyinternational.org/report/5481/pis-briefing-travellers-surveillance⁠

            UK

            Border Search of digital devices: ⁠https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2023-12-05/debates/D4EA367E-312B-4FA4-A441-0C4E7967C5D6/DigitalDevicesSearchPowersAtTheUKBorder⁠

            UK's law on seizure of electronic devices from asylum seekers and migrants: ⁠https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/powers-and-operational-procedure-caseworker-guidance/border-security-asylum-and-immigration-act-2025-seizure-of-electronic-devices-policy-guidance-accessible⁠

            Tommy Robinson Court Case: ⁠https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tommy-robinson-cleared-terror-charges-over-refused-phone-access-1752352⁠

            Muhammad Rabbani - Director of Cage - Schedule 7 terror charges: ⁠https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41394156⁠

            Acronyms

            • ETIAS: European Travel Information and Authorisation System (new for visa exempt; no biometrics - run by a central unit operated by frontex; this is where manual checks carried out if automated checks flag problems)
            • VIS: Visa information System (obvs for visas; age lowered to 6? - will soon check other systems)
            • EES: Entry/Exit system (biometrics on entry; records all border crossings)
            • CIR: Common Identity Repository (only non-eu citizens; weak anti-discrimination; identity info from visa and ta - data from other databases lives here and is used for purposes beyond travel e.g. police checks in country)
            • Eurodac: (all asylum seekers, and trying to add undocumented migrants)
            • ECRIS-TCN: European Criminal Records Information System for Third-Country Nationals (data on non-EU citizens convicted in one or more EU member state)
            • SIS: schengen information system (an EU database for police, judicial and border control
            • cooperation, to see whether they are wanted by the police or subject to an entry ban; checked on crossing external schengen border inc eu citizens)
            • MID: Multiple-Identity Detector
            • SLTED: Interpol’s Stolen and Lost Travel Documents database (checked on crossing external schengen border inc eu citizens)
            • PNR: Passenger name record
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            • Europol's Shadow Surveillance feat Bill Goodwin

              This week we're joined by Bill Goodwin, investigations editor at Computer Weekly and award-winning journalist, to discuss Europol's secret shadow IT system — and what it tells us about how law enforcement agencies evade oversight.

              Links

              Computer Weekly investigation: https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366642525/They-protect-the-law-while-breaking-it-Inside-Europols-shadow-IT-system

              We Are Solomon: https://wearesolomon.com/en/mag/focus-area/accountability/they-protect-the-law-while-breaking-it-inside-europols-shadow-it-system/

              Privacy International's 2019 FOI on Europol: https://privacyinternational.org/report/3225/challenging-drivers-surveillance-eu-access-documents-requests

              Spanish police and cryptophone intercepts: https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366643318/Spanish-police-systematically-hid-cryptophone-intercepts-from-courts-claims-ex-chief

              Bill's case

              Goodwin v United Kingdom: https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/cases/goodwin-v-united-kingdom/

              The Independent — Reporter's rights violated: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/reporter-s-rights-violated-1438583.html

              Horizon

              Parliamentary committee on Horizon redress: https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/365/business-and-trade-committee/news/212661/post-office-horizon-it-scandal-serious-structural-failings-persist-in-redress/

              Bill at TCIJ on breaking the Horizon story: https://tcij.org/summer-conference-event/breaking-horizon-post-office-scandal/

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            • Community Health: Young people in Ghana and Vietnam

              This is the third and final edition of our series on young peoples’ digital health and human rights.

              Today we’re talking to Alberta Nadutey - a research officer for working on the Digital Health and Rights project about how young people in Ghana interact with digital health, and Minh Anh a young person from the Vietnam community advisory team about her participation in the research in Vietnam, and what she sees as the biggest digital health concerns as a medical student interested in public health policy.

              Links

              • DHRP report: https://digitalhealthandrights.com/resource-library/report-paying-the-costs-of-connection/

              • Ghana policy brief DHRP: https://digitalhealthandrights.com/resource-library/national-policy-brief-navigating-human-rights-and-risks-online-young-ghanaians-and-the-future-of-digital-health/

              • Vietnam policy brief DHRP: https://digitalhealthandrights.com/resource-library/paying-the-cost-of-connection-vietnam-policy-brief/

              • Ghana law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghanaian_anti-LGBTQ_bill

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              • Community Health: Colombia Dating App Dilemma

                This week we're talking to Natalia Andrade and Laura Grisales Silva from Fundación Karisma about dating app data, the commodification of intimacy, and talking to Colombian young people about their experiences.

                Fundación Karisma are a member of the ⁠⁠Digital Health and Rights Project⁠⁠.

                Links

                More from Fundación Karisma: ⁠https://info.karisma.org.co/⁠

                2018 Grindr shared HIV status and more: ⁠https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43624328⁠

                2021 Norwegian DPA fines Grindr: ⁠https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/national-news/2021/norwegian-dpa-imposes-fine-against-grindr-llc_en⁠

                Ongoing UK case in which Grindr is being sued: ⁠https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj7mxnvz42no⁠

                $40 million Bumble and Badoo class action settlement: ⁠https://www.jjlmlaw.com/news/bumble-biometric-privacy-40-million-settlement-approved⁠

                Criteo loses appeal on their fine: ⁠https://cybernews.com/privacy/french-ad-tech-giant-criteo-eur40m-privacy-fine/⁠

                Karisma's work on WorldCoin in Colombia: ⁠https://blog.karisma.org.co/investigar-lo-invisible-del-iris-a-worldcoin-herramientas-de-investigacion-para-transformar-la-curiosidad-en-accion/⁠

                WorldCoin in Colombia: ⁠https://cadeproject.org/updates/colombia-orders-worldcoin-shutdown-over-biometric-data-violations/

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              • Community Health: Kenya Data Debt Spiral

                This week we're talking to Joan Musenya about life in Kenya as a young person - from mobile money, to data protection, to government surveillance.

                Joan is a member of the Kenyan Community Advisory Team (K-CAT) helping to steer the ⁠Digital Health and Rights Project⁠.

                Links

                • Digital Health and Rights Project report: ⁠https://digitalhealthandrights.com/resource-library/report-paying-the-costs-of-connection/⁠
                • Find more from Joan: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/joan-musenya/⁠
                • PI's low cost tech work: ⁠https://www.privacyinternational.org/campaigns/privacy-shouldnt-be-luxury⁠
                • More about shame based debt collection in Kenya: ⁠https://biznakenya.com/digital-lenders-kenya-debt-collection-warning/⁠
                • More about what to do if you're experiencing harassment from debt collectors in Kenya: ⁠https://dealfish.co.ke/2025/03/mobile-loan-recovery-harassment-in.html⁠
                • More about the history of M-Pesa: ⁠https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianstadler/2024/06/11/m-pesa-why-the-worlds-first-large-mobile-payment-platform-keeps-on-winning/⁠
                • CNN apology to Kenya: ⁠https://www.newtimes.co.rw/article/121633/Latest News/cnn-boss-apologizes-to-kenya-over-terrorism-slur⁠
                • PI's work on sim card registration: ⁠https://privacyinternational.org/learn/sim-card-registration
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                • War Machines feat Stop Killer Robots and PAX

                  This week we're joined by Professor Peter Asaro from Stop Killer Robots, and Frank Slijper, Arms trade project lead at PAX to discuss military uses of AI, including Anthropic's stand-off with the US Department of Defense.

                  Please note this podcast was recorded on the 20th March.

                  Links

                  Stop Killer Robots: https://www.stopkillerrobots.org/stop-killer-robots/

                  Pax: https://paxforpeace.nl/who-we-are/organization/

                  Stop Killer Robots at the UN: https://www.stopkillerrobots.org/news/reports-of-ai-enabled-targeting-in-iran-bring-real-world-impacts-to-the-un/

                  Stop Killer Robots on Anthropic stand off: https://www.stopkillerrobots.org/news/press-release-stop-killer-robots-responds-to-the-anthropic-pentagon-standoff/

                  The Case

                  • The Anthropic case: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq571w5vllxo
                  • The Anthropic supply chain designation: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5g3z3xe65o
                  • Access, Tech Justice, and more's amicus: https://techjusticelaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Anthropic-amicus-press-release_updated.pdf
                  • War and AI systems

                    • : https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/12/who-bombed-the-iranian-girls-school-killing-more-than-170-what-we-know
                    • Lavender and Where's Daddy: https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
                    • Project Maven: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/project-maven-ai-us-airstrike-iraq-anthropic-b2929138.html
                    • More on Project Maven: https://www.businessinsider.com/palantir-project-maven-ai-demonstration-pentagon-2026-3?op=1
                    • More on Project Maven: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven
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