In this episode, we reflect on the American Dream in light of a 1965 debate between James Baldwin and William F. Buckley, Jr.  I'm joined by political theorist Nicholas Buccola, author of "The Fire is Upon Us: James Baldwin, William F. Buckley Jr., and the Debate over Race in America."

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