Poetry & Pedagogy

Poetry & Pedagogy

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Poetry & Pedagogy episodes

  • The Rapturous Present
    In this episode I discuss the poem 'And What Good Will Your Vanity Be When The Rapture Comes' by Hanif Willis-Abdurraqib
    And What Good Will Your Vanity Be When The Rapture Comes
    And What Good Will Your Vanity Be When The Rapture Comes
    says the man with a cart of empty bottles at the corner of church
    and lincoln while I stare into my phone and I say
    I know oh I know while trying to find the specific
    filter that will make the sun’s near-flawless descent look
    the way I might describe it in a poem and the man
    says the moment is already right in front of you and I
    say I know but everyone I love is not here and I mean
    here like on this street corner with me while I turn
    the sky a darker shade of red on my phone and I mean
    here like everyone I love who I can still touch and not
    pass my fingers through like the wind in a dream
    but I look up at the man and he is a kaleidoscope
    of shadows I mean his shadows have shadows
    and they are small and trailing behind him and I know
    then that everyone he loves is also not here and the man doesn’t ask
    but I still say hey man I’ve got nothing I’ve got nothing even though I have plenty
    to go home to and the sun is still hot even in its
    endless flirt with submission and the man’s palm has a small
    river inside I mean he has taken my hand now and here we are
    tethered and unmoving and the man says what color are you making
    the sky and I say what I might say in a poem I say all surrender
    ends in blood and he says no, what color are you making the sky and
    I say something bright enough to make people wish they were here
    and he squints towards the dancing shrapnel of dying
    light along a rooftop and he says I love things only as they are
    and I’m sure I did once too but I can’t prove it to anyone these days
    and he says the end isn’t always about what dies and I know I know
    or I knew once and now I write about beautiful things
    like I will never touch a beautiful thing again and the man
    looks me in the eyes and he points to the blue-orange vault
    over heaven’s gates and he says the face of everyone you miss
    is up there and I know I know I can’t see them but I know
    and he turns my face to the horizon and he says
    we don’t have much time left and I get that he means the time
    before the sun is finally through with its daily work or I
    think I get that but I still can’t stop trembling and I close
    my eyes and I am sobbing on the corner of church and
    lincoln and when I open my eyes the sun is plucking everyone
    who has chosen to love me from the clouds and carrying them
    into the light-drunk horizon and I am seeing this and I know
    I am seeing this the girl who kissed me as a boy in the dairy aisle
    of meijer while our parents shopped and the older boy on the
    basketball team who taught me how to make a good fist and swing
    it into the jaw of a bully and the friends who crawled to my porch
    in the summer of any year I have been alive they were all there
    I saw their faces and it was like I was given the eyes of a newborn
    again and once you know what it is to be lonely it is hard to
    unsee that which serves as a reminder that you were not always
    empty and I am gasping into the now-dark air and I pull my shirt
    up to wipe whatever tears are left and I see the man walking in the
    other direction and I chase him down and tap his arm and I say did
    you see it did you see it like I did and he turns and leans into the
    glow of a streetlamp and he is anchored by a single shadow now
    and he sneers and he says have we met and he scoffs and pushes
    his cart off into the night and I can hear the glass rattling even
    as I watch him become small and vanish and I look down at my
    phone and the sky on the screen is still blood red.
    24 min
  • Sumptuous Disturbances
    In this episode I discuss the poem 'French Horn' by Jane Hirshfield
    French Horn
    For a few days only,
    the plum tree outside the window
    shoulders perfection.
    No matter the plums will be small,
    eaten only by squirrels and jays.
    I feast on the one thing, they on another,
    the shoaling bees on a third.
    What in this unpleated world isn’t someone’s seduction?
    The boy playing his intricate horn in Mahler’s Fifth,
    in the gaps between playing,
    turns it and turns it, dismantles a section,
    shakes from it the condensation
    of human passage. He is perhaps twenty.
    Later he takes his four bows, his face deepening red,
    while a girl holds a viola’s spruce wood and maple
    in one half-opened hand and looks at him hard.
    Let others clap.
    These two, their ears still ringing, hear nothing.
    Not the shouts of bravo, bravo,
    not the timpanic clamor inside their bodies.
    As the plum’s blossoms do not hear the bee
    nor taste themselves turned into storable honey
    by that sumptuous disturbance.
    20 min
  • Renunciation of Obligation
    In this episode I discuss the poem 'The Art of Disappearing' by Naomi Shihab Nye
    The Art of Disappearing
    When they say don’t I know you?
    say no.
    When they invite you to the party
    remember what parties are like
    before answering.
    Someone is telling you in a loud voice
    they once wrote a poem.
    Greasy sausage balls on a paper plate.
    Then reply.
    If they say We should get together
    say why?
    It’s not that you don’t love them anymore.
    You’re trying to remember something
    too important to forget.
    Trees. The monastery bell at twilight.
    Tell them you have a new project.
    It will never be finished.
    When someone recognizes you in a grocery store
    nod briefly and become a cabbage.
    When someone you haven’t seen in ten years
    appears at the door,
    don’t start singing him all your new songs.
    You will never catch up.
    Walk around feeling like a leaf.
    Know you could tumble any second.
    Then decide what to do with your time.
    20 min
  • Retrouvailles
    In this episode I discuss the poem 'Gate C22' by Ellen Bass
    Gate C22
    At gate C22 in the Portland airport
    a man in a broad-band leather hat kissed
    a woman arriving from Orange County.
    They kissed and kissed and kissed. Long after
    the other passengers clicked the handles of their carry-ons
    and wheeled briskly toward short-term parking,
    the couple stood there, arms wrapped around each other
    like he’d just staggered off the boat at Ellis Island,
    like she’d been released at last from ICU, snapped
    out of a coma, survived bone cancer, made it down
    from Annapurna in only the clothes she was wearing.
    Neither of them was young. His beard was gray.
    She carried a few extra pounds you could imagine
    her saying she had to lose. But they kissed lavish
    kisses like the ocean in the early morning,
    the way it gathers and swells, sucking
    each rock under, swallowing it
    again and again. We were all watching—
    passengers waiting for the delayed flight
    to San Jose, the stewardesses, the pilots,
    the aproned woman icing Cinnabons, the man selling
    sunglasses. We couldn’t look away. We could
    taste the kisses crushed in our mouths.
    But the best part was his face. When he drew back
    and looked at her, his smile soft with wonder, almost
    as though he were a mother still open from giving birth,
    as your mother must have looked at you, no matter
    what happened after—if she beat you or left you or
    you’re lonely now—you once lay there, the vernix
    not yet wiped off, and someone gazed at you
    as if you were the first sunrise seen from the Earth.
    The whole wing of the airport hushed,
    all of us trying to slip into that woman’s middle-aged body,
    her plaid Bermuda shorts, sleeveless blouse, glasses,
    little gold hoop earrings, tilting our heads up.
    26 min
  • Becoming a Hurry
    In this episode, I discuss the poem 'Postscript', by Seamus Haney.
    Postscript
    by Seamus Haney
    And some time make the time to drive out west
    Into County Clare, along the Flaggy Shore,
    In September or October, when the wind
    And the light are working off each other
    So that the ocean on one side is wild
    With foam and glitter, and inland among stones
    The surface of a slate-grey lake is lit
    By the earthed lightning of a flock of swans,
    Their feathers roughed and ruffling, white on white,
    Their fully grown headstrong-looking heads
    Tucked or cresting or busy underwater.
    Useless to think you’ll park and capture it
    More thoroughly. You are neither here nor there,
    A hurry through which known and strange things pass
    As big soft buffetings come at the car sideways
    And catch the heart off guard and blow it open.
    25 min
  • The Tender Gravity of Kindness
    In this episode, I discuss the poem 'Kindness', by Naomi Shihab Nye.
    Kindness
    by Naomi Shihab Nye
    Before you know what kindness really is
    you must lose things, feel the future dissolve in a moment
    like salt in a weakened broth.
    What you held in your hand,
    what you counted and carefully saved,
    all this must go so you know
    how desolate the landscape can be
    between the regions of kindness.
    How you ride and ride
    thinking the bus will never stop,
    the passengers eating maize and chicken
    will stare out the window forever.
    Before you learn the tender gravity of kindness,
    you must travel where the
    Indian in a white poncho lies dead
    by the side of the road.
    You must see how this could be you,
    how he too was someone
    who journeyed through the night
    with plans and the simple breath
    that kept him alive.
    Before you know kindness
    as the deepest thing inside,
    you must know sorrow
    as the other deepest thing.
    You must wake up with sorrow.
    You must speak to it till your voice
    catches the thread of all sorrows
    and you see the size of the cloth.
    Then it is only kindness
    that makes sense anymore,
    only kindness that ties your shoes
    and sends you out into the day
    to mail letters and purchase bread,
    only kindness that raises its head
    from the crowd of the world to say
    it is I you have been looking for,
    and then goes with you everywhere
    like a shadow or a friend.
    31 min
  • How to Find Meaning in Pumping Gas
    In this this episode, I discuss the poem 'What You Missed that Day You Were Absent from Fourth Grade', by Brad Modlin.
    What You Missed that Day You Were Absent from Fourth Grade
    by Brad Modlin
    Mrs. Nelson explained how to stand still and listen
    to the wind, how to find meaning in pumping gas,
    how peeling potatoes can be a form of prayer. She took
    questions on how not to feel lost in the dark.
    After lunch she distributed worksheets
    that covered ways to remember your grandfather’s
    voice. Then the class discussed falling asleep
    without feeling you had forgotten to do something else—
    something important—and how to believe
    the house you wake in is your home. This prompted
    Mrs. Nelson to draw a chalkboard diagram detailing
    how to chant the Psalms during cigarette breaks,
    and how not to squirm for sound when your own thoughts
    are all you hear; also, that you have enough.
    The English lesson was that I am
    is a complete sentence.
    And just before the afternoon bell, she made the math equation look easy. The one that proves that hundreds of questions,
    and feeling cold, and all those nights spent looking
    for whatever it was you lost, and one person
    add up to something.
    24 min
  • Letting Go of Aloneness
    In this episode, I discuss the poem 'Wishing Well' by Gregory Pardlo.
    Wishing Well
    by Gregory Pardlo
    Outside the Met a man walks up sun
    tweaking the brim sticker on his Starter cap
    and he says pardon me Old School he
    says you know is this a wishing well?
    Yeah Son I say sideways over my shrug.
    Throw your bread on the water.
    I tighten my chest wheezy as Rockaway beach
    sand with a pull of faux smoke on my e-cig
    to cozy the truculence I hotbox alone
    and I am at the museum because it is not a bar.
    Because he appears not to have changed
    them in days I eye the heel-chewed hems
    of his pants and think probably he will
    ask me for fifty cents any minute now wait
    for it. A smoke or something. Central Park displays
    the frisking transparency of autumn. Tracing
    paper sky, leaves like eraser crumbs gum
    the pavement. As if deciphering celestial
    script I squint and purse off toward the roof
    line of the museum aloof as he fists two
    pennies from his pockets mumbling and then
    aloud my man he says hey my man I’m going
    to make a wish for you too.
    I am laughing now so what you want
    me to sign a waiver? He laughs along ain’t
    say all that he says but you do have to
    hold my hand. And close your eyes.
    I make a starless night of my face before
    he asks are you ready. Yeah dawg I’m ready.
    Sure? Sure let’s do this his rough hand
    in mine inflates like a blood pressure cuff and I
    squeeze back as if we are about to step together
    from the sill of all resentment and timeless
    toward the dreamsource of un-needing the two
    of us hurtle sharing the cosmic breast
    of plenitude when I hear the coins blink against
    the surface and I cough up daylight like I’ve just
    been dragged ashore. See now
    you’ll never walk alone he jokes and is about
    to hand me back to the day he found me in
    like I was a rubber duck and he says you got to let
    go but I feel bottomless and I know he means
    well though I don’t believe
    and I feel myself shaking
    my head no when he means let go his hand.
    22 min
  • Apprenticeship as a Form of Love
    In this episode, I discuss the poem 'Living Together' by David Whyte.
    Living Together
    by David Whyte
    We are like children in the master’s violin shop
    not yet allowed to touch the tiny planes or the rare wood
    but given brooms to sweep the farthest corners
    of the room, to gather shavings, mop spilled resins
    and watch with apprehension the tender curves
    emerging from apprenticed hands. The master
    rarely shows himself but whenever he does he demonstrates
    a concentrated ease so different from the willful accumulation
    of experience we have come to expect,
    a stripping away, a direct appreciation of all the elements
    we are bound, one day, to find beneath our hands.
    He stands in our minds so clearly now, his confident back
    caught in the light from pale clerestory windows
    and we note the way the slight tremor of his palms
    disappears the moment they encounter wood.
    In this light we hunger for maturity, see it not as stasis
    but a form of love. We want the stillness and confidence
    of age, the space between self and all the objects of the world
    honoured and defined, the possibility that everything
    left alone can ripen of its own accord,
    all passionate transformations arranged only
    through innocent meetings, one to another,
    the way we see resin allowed to seep into the wood
    in the wood’s own secret time. We intuit our natures
    becoming resonant with one another according
    to the grain of the way we are made. Nothing forced
    or wanted until it ripens in our own expectant hands.
    But for now, in the busy room, we stand in the child’s
    first shy witness of one another, and see ourselves again,
    gladly and always, falling in love with our future.
    29 min
  • Integrating Poetry and Pedagogy
    In this overview to the podcast, I discuss how I use poetry to invite my students to consider the larger questions for which the intellectual language they’ve inherited is inadequate. The language we use in our teaching is often too small and too impoverished. It isn’t large enough for the territories we want to explore and inhabit.
    Poetry offers us a language that is more expansive, more generous, deeper, and more worthy either of the identities we are on the hunt for or the ideas we are trying to make peace with.
    22 min

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