Tony Windsor was a politician and, as an independent, he helped hand minority government and the prime ministership to Julia Gillard.

He says that at the end of the day, politicians are, by their nature, weak.

And if there’s any example that’s taught him that, it’s the decades-long fight over our water and how we protect it.

Today, former Independent MP Tony Windsor on our water, how gas developments can threaten it and how grassroots campaigns can force politicians to back down.

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Guest: Former independent MP Tony Windsor.

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