Kali talks about meeting CuteZilla and their early history together. She describes some of the challenges and benefits of having CuteZilla in her riding school. She also describes how this fantastic pony got her name.

Kali describes the process of buying a feedlot pony and selling her 9 months later as a champion hunter pony. Kali explains how she craftily found young riders to help develop the pony using the free section of the newspaper. Kali was disqualified at a hunter/jumper show for riding bitless, but was still able to successfully sell her pony. 

Kali talks about the idiosyncrasies of her childhood POA pony. The pony was hard to catch and not a great jumper. Kali describes being contacted 10-15 years later by someone who was contacting her for training advice and didn't realize she owned a pony Kali learned to ride on. Kali also describes how POAs fair as jumping horses and the factors that might be at play.

The podcast is briefly interrupted by a Great Horned Owl soaring overhead!

Kali talks about being a shy kid and huge animal lover. She also discusses anthropomorphism, her first horse show, starting to ride hunter/jumpers, overcoming fear in riding, learning to find a state of flow, and the opportunity horses give us to be present.

Kali talks about the pony she got for her 9th birthday that bolted nearly every lesson for 3 years. So many of us had a crazy pony growing up. It's a sort of unofficial right of passage and makes you a great rider.

Kali Kiger from Pony Pros talks about how she became a horse trainer. Pony Pros is a natural horsemanship and positive reinforcement riding school for kids and kids at heart. Pony Pros is located in Bend, Oregon and is offers national and international clinics.