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Poor Sleep, Big Pay Gaps, Culture Shifts: The State of Devs in 2025 with Sacha Greif
Sacha Greif, creator of the State of Devs 2025 survey, joins PodRocket to share insights on developer life beyond the code. We talk about sleep habits, mental health, job titles, workplace culture, and shifting values across regions. Learn why "engineer" titles often pay more, what developers worldwide think about Elon Musk, and how trends differ by country, gender, and company size.
Links
Website: https://sachagreif.com
X: https://x.com/sachagreif
Github: https://github.com/sachag
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sacha-greif-03b9a3255
Resources
State of Devs 2025: https://2025.stateofdevs.com/en-US
Chapters
00:00 Intro & State of Devs 2025 Overview
00:10 Why Developer Life Is More Than Code
00:39 From State of JavaScript to State of Devs
01:08 Expanding Surveys: AI & React Ecosystem
01:21 Developer Life Beyond Code
02:01 Designing Questions That Go Beyond Tech
02:17 Sleep, Health, and Hobbies in Developer Life
02:32 Reaching Underrepresented Groups in Tech Surveys
03:30 Women’s Participation Rises to 15%
04:00 Poor Sleep Tops Developer Health Issues
05:15 Gender Differences in Workplace Conflict Response
06:00 Average Developer Sleep: 6.9 Hours
07:00 What Sleep Data Reveals About Developer Life
09:15 Engineer vs Developer: Salary Gap Explained
11:00 Company Size, Job Titles, and Pay Differences
13:00 Inclusivity, Open Source, and Community Spaces
15:15 How Age Impacts Discrimination in Tech
17:00 Culture Shifts and Values in the Tech Industry
18:45 Younger vs Older Devs on Free Speech and Politics
20:30 Future Survey Topics: Leaders, Politics & Perception
22:45 What the Data Reveals About Developer Diversity
25:15 Using the Survey API to Explore Your Own Insights
26:30 Fun Data Point: Minecraft Players & Relationships
27:30 Predicting the Future of Developer Happiness
30:15 Closing Thoughts & How to Join Next Year’s Survey
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Sacha Greif, creator of the State of Devs 2025 survey, joins PodRocket to share insights on developer life beyond the code. We talk about sleep habits, mental health, job titles, workplace culture, and shifting values across regions. Learn why "engineer" titles often pay more, what developers worldwide think about Elon Musk, and how trends differ by country, gender, and company size.
Links
Website: https://sachagreif.com
X: https://x.com/sachagreif
Github: https://github.com/sachag
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sacha-greif-03b9a3255
Resources
State of Devs 2025: https://2025.stateofdevs.com/en-US
Chapters
00:00 Intro & State of Devs 2025 Overview
00:10 Why Developer Life Is More Than Code
00:39 From State of JavaScript to State of Devs
01:08 Expanding Surveys: AI & React Ecosystem
01:21 Developer Life Beyond Code
02:01 Designing Questions That Go Beyond Tech
02:17 Sleep, Health, and Hobbies in Developer Life
02:32 Reaching Underrepresented Groups in Tech Surveys
03:30 Women’s Participation Rises to 15%
04:00 Poor Sleep Tops Developer Health Issues
05:15 Gender Differences in Workplace Conflict Response
06:00 Average Developer Sleep: 6.9 Hours
07:00 What Sleep Data Reveals About Developer Life
09:15 Engineer vs Developer: Salary Gap Explained
11:00 Company Size, Job Titles, and Pay Differences
13:00 Inclusivity, Open Source, and Community Spaces
15:15 How Age Impacts Discrimination in Tech
17:00 Culture Shifts and Values in the Tech Industry
18:45 Younger vs Older Devs on Free Speech and Politics
20:30 Future Survey Topics: Leaders, Politics & Perception
22:45 What the Data Reveals About Developer Diversity
25:15 Using the Survey API to Explore Your Own Insights
26:30 Fun Data Point: Minecraft Players & Relationships
27:30 Predicting the Future of Developer Happiness
30:15 Closing Thoughts & How to Join Next Year’s Survey
We want to hear from you!
How did you find us? Did you see us on Twitter? In a newsletter? Or maybe we were recommended by a friend?
Fill out our listener survey!
Let us know by sending an email to our producer, Elizabeth, at [email protected], or tweet at us at PodRocketPod.
Follow us. Get free stickers.
Follow us on Apple Podcasts, fill out this form, and we’ll send you free PodRocket stickers!
What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket provides AI-first session replay and analytics that surfaces the UX and technical issues impacting user experiences. Start understanding where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com. Try LogRocket for free today.
Special Guest: Sacha Greif.
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