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In this episode the Pearlman's address how they might be responsible for what happened to the Pope as much as JD Vance. Later they talk to David Pakman about being told not to leave the country, raising a family as a political content creators, and what it was like doing the Joe Rogan Experience.

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0:00 Intro 0:45 The Historical Failures of JD Vance 5:14 Pope Francis 11:55 DAVID PAKMAN 23:00 The Squirrel 30:30 Pakman on Trump 49:33 Future of American Politics 1:03:36 The Pod is Podding