Joining Lesley in this episode is Jane Hardwicke Collings. Exploring childbirth as a rite of passage, they discuss the journey to motherhood and beyond. Jane passes on her knowledge not only as a retired midwife but as a mother, a grandmother, a life partner of a blended family, a warrior queen and a modern day teacher of woman’s mysteries. Pour a cuppa and listen to Jane allow us to explore the relationship between the woman who arrives to birth her baby and the teenager she was when she first began menstruation. A thought provoking episode for pregnant mama’s, new mums as well as those who birthed long ago. One not to be missed, including a background appearance of Lesley’s daughter around 29mins 40 seconds!