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  • George Norris: Bouvet Island, a Liberty Ship and a Canadian Sculptor

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    This episode reads a single disambiguation page for the name George Norris as a composite biography of very different lives. The earliest entry is a George Norris who, as master of the vessel Sprightly, named Bouvet Island in 1825, a legacy that depended on fixing coordinates by hand at sea and surviving the voyage home to report them. The next is George W. Norris, an American politician who lived from 1861 to 1944, from the start of the Civil War to the last years of World War II, whose name was given to the Liberty ship SS George W. Norris and to the George W. Norris House, a National Historic Landmark in Nebraska.

    The page also lists George A. Norris, a Canadian sculptor who lived from 1928 to 2013, and, in its see also section, George Norris Williams, who lived from 1866 to 1949, almost exactly the same span as the politician. The hosts contrast a legacy won through physical discovery, one conferred by the state through steel and preserved architecture, and one made by an artist's own hands, then look at how a database's string matching pushes a near contemporary to the margins simply because his surname is different.

    • The 1825 naming of Bouvet Island is credited to the master of the Sprightly.
    • Liberty ships were mass produced cargo vessels built by the hundreds to supply the Allied war effort.
    • The Nebraska house preserves the private domestic setting of the politician's life as a National Historic Landmark.
    • George A. Norris is remembered for sculpture he made himself, the most personal footprint on the page.
    • George Norris Williams appears only as a cross reference despite living through the same decades as George W. Norris.
    17 min
  • Jon Corzine: Goldman Sachs Chief, New Jersey Governor, MF Global Collapse

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    Jon Corzine was born in 1947 and grew up on a small Illinois farm, played quarterback and captained the basketball team, made sergeant in the Marine Corps Reserve, and earned a University of Chicago MBA at night while working at a regional bank. He joined Goldman Sachs in 1975 as a bond trader, rose to CEO and senior partner by 1994, and helped organize the 1998 private rescue of Long-Term Capital Management. Forced out in 1999 after a power struggle with co-CEO Henry Paulson, he left with an estimated $400 million from the firm's public offering. He then spent a record $62 million of his own money to win New Jersey's 2000 Senate race by about three points, co-authored the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, voted against the Iraq war resolution and chaired the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

    Corzine spent another $38 million to win the governorship in 2005. In 2006 he shut down state government, including Atlantic City's casinos, until the legislature accepted his increase of the sales tax from 6 to 7 percent after six days. In April 2007 his state SUV crashed on the Garden State Parkway at 91 miles per hour while he rode without a seatbelt, leaving him in critical condition. He abolished the death penalty and reformed school funding but lost to Chris Christie in 2009. As CEO of MF Global from 2010 he made large leveraged bets on European sovereign debt, and when the firm filed for bankruptcy in October 2011, $1.2 billion in customer funds was missing.

    • A pollster urged him to drop the Wall Street image, and he campaigned on universal health care, gun registration and preschool.
    • His breakup payout to Carla Katz, who led a Communications Workers of America local, exceeded $6 million; an ethics panel found no code violation.
    • The crash shattered his femur and broke his sternum, a vertebra and 11 ribs; he paid a $46 ticket and filmed a PSA that opened with "I should be dead."
    • His toll road plan would have let tolls on the Turnpike and Parkway rise 50 percent every four years to pay down state debt.
    • In a 2017 CFTC settlement he paid a $5 million penalty and accepted a lifetime ban from the futures industry; customers eventually recovered their money.
    27 min
  • Bill Nelson: The Challenger Seat Swap, Three Senate Terms, and NASA

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    Bill Nelson was born in Miami in 1942, lost his father to a heart attack at 14 and his mother to ALS at 24, transferred to Yale, earned a law degree from the University of Virginia in 1968, and reached the rank of captain in the U.S. Army Reserve during the Vietnam War. Elected to the Florida House in 1972 from Brevard County on the Space Coast, he moved to the U.S. House in 1978 and chaired the House Space Subcommittee. In January 1986 he spent six days in orbit aboard Columbia as a payload specialist, the second sitting member of Congress and the first House member to fly on the shuttle, in a seat originally slated for Gregory Jarvis. Ten days after Nelson returned, Jarvis died when Challenger broke apart 73 seconds after launch.

    Nelson's 1990 run for governor collapsed after he attacked Lawton Chiles over his age and his use of Prozac, and he finished with 30.5 percent in the primary. He rebuilt as Florida treasurer, insurance commissioner and fire marshal from 1995 to 2000, then won a U.S. Senate seat in 2000 and held it until 2019, backing the Affordable Care Act and same sex marriage while voting to cut the estate tax and for the Iraq war resolution. He lost to Rick Scott in 2018 by roughly 10,000 votes, a race an MIT study linked to a Broward County ballot layout that caused thousands of undervotes. In 2021 Joe Biden named him NASA administrator, and the Senate confirmed him unanimously; he served until January 2025.

    • He wrote a book about his shuttle flight in 1988, cementing his reputation as Congress's space politician.
    • In 2006 he met Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Damascus over the objections of the White House and State Department, citing the Iraq Study Group.
    • During the 2018 campaign he said Russian operatives had penetrated some Florida election systems, a claim later intelligence reports supported.
    • At NASA he oversaw the James Webb Space Telescope, the uncrewed Artemis I mission and the DART asteroid test, and embraced fixed price contracts he had once resisted.
    • In a 2024 congressional hearing he mistakenly said the far side of the Moon is always in the dark.
    20 min
  • Oliver Ellsworth: The Connecticut Compromise and the Judiciary Act of 1789

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    Oliver Ellsworth was born in Windsor, Connecticut, in 1745 and transferred from Yale to Princeton, where he co-founded a debate society. He married Abigail Wolcott in 1772, and they had nine children. During the Revolution he led militia, served as state attorney for Hartford County, and sat on Continental Congress committees. At the 1787 Constitutional Convention he replaced the phrase national government with the United States, and with Roger Sherman he engineered the Connecticut Compromise, pairing a House based on population with a Senate of equal state representation. He voted for the Three-Fifths Compromise while also speaking for abolition and noting he owned no slaves.

    As one of Connecticut's first U.S. senators, Ellsworth led the Federalists in a chamber that met in secret for its first five years. He largely wrote the Judiciary Act of 1789, whose Section 25 let state supreme court rulings on federal questions be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, and he steered the Bill of Rights through the Senate. George Washington named him the third Chief Justice in 1796 after John Rutledge was rejected and William Cushing declined. John Adams sent him to France in 1799 during the Quasi-War, and the resulting treaty was unpopular though it avoided war. Too ill to return, he resigned in 1800 and died in Connecticut in 1807.

    • Aaron Burr complained that Ellsworth would stall the Senate for weeks over a single misspelled word.
    • Senator William Maclay accused him of avoiding open debate in favor of private deals.
    • As Chief Justice he ended seriatim opinions in favor of a single opinion for the majority.
    • He received 11 electoral votes in 1796 without campaigning and administered the oath of office to John Adams.
    • John F. Kennedy's only encyclopedia contribution was the biographical entry on Ellsworth.
    22 min
  • Wendell Ford: Coal Severance Tax, Tobacco Price Supports, NAFTA No Vote

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    Wendell Hampton Ford was born near Owensboro, Kentucky, in 1924, the son of a state senator. He left the University of Kentucky to join the Army in World War II, serving as an administrative noncommissioned officer and rising to technical sergeant, then joined his father's insurance business and commanded a Kentucky National Guard company that became a tank company. After working for Bert Combs's 1959 campaign for governor, he won a state Senate seat in 1965 by 305 votes and the 1967 lieutenant governor primary by 631 over Combs's objections, then served under Republican Governor Louie Nunn while rebuilding the Democratic organization.

    Ford beat Combs in the 1971 primary and won the governorship, imposing a coal severance tax and gas tax while exempting food from the sales tax, creating super cabinets, bringing the University of Louisville into the state system, and ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment in a 1972 special session. He also faced criticism over patronage. In 1974 he unseated Senator Marlow Cook, then weathered a four year probe of an insurance commission scheme in which he was never charged. Over 24 Senate years he protected tobacco, co-founded the National Guard Caucus with Kit Bond, rose to Democratic whip, and voted against NAFTA. He is the only Kentuckian to serve successively as lieutenant governor, governor, and senator, and he died in 2015.

    • Cook resigned a few days early so Ford could be sworn in with extra seniority over other freshmen.
    • He carried all 120 Kentucky counties with 74 percent of the vote in 1986.
    • On the Joint Committee on Printing he saved millions through volume printing and recycled paper.
    • He won an exemption for tobacco from the Consumer Product Safety Act.
    • In the 1998 tobacco settlement talks he defended the price support program while Mitch McConnell sought a buyout.
    24 min
  • Hugo Black: From Klan Member to Justice Behind Korematsu and Gideon

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    Hugo Lafayette Black was born in 1886 in rural Clay County, Alabama, into a Baptist family and built a Birmingham law practice around labor and personal injury cases, including the defense of a Black man forced into commercial slavery after a prison sentence. That case led to a police court judgeship and a job as a prosecutor. Pursuing a U.S. Senate seat in the 1920s, he joined the Ku Klux Klan and gave more than a hundred speeches at Klan gatherings with anti-Catholic and nativist themes. He resigned in 1925 for the campaign, rejoined after winning in 1926, and received a grand passport marking life membership. In the Senate from 1927 to 1937 he backed the New Deal, subpoenaed utility lobbyists' telegrams, sponsored the Black-Connery bill, and filibustered anti-lynching legislation.

    Franklin Roosevelt named him to the Supreme Court in 1937, and weeks later a Pulitzer winning expose revealed his Klan ties; he answered in a radio address to about 50 million listeners. On the Court he became a strict textualist who dissented in Griswold v. Connecticut, voted to allow publication of the Pentagon Papers, wrote the rulings against state mandated school prayer, and pressed for total incorporation of the Bill of Rights through the 14th Amendment. He also wrote the majority opinion in Korematsu upholding Japanese American internment, joined Brown v. Board of Education, and dissented in Tinker. He retired in September 1971 and died days later at 85.

    • Near the end of his life he reportedly said he would have joined any group that got him votes.
    • For Black, Congress shall make no law meant exactly that, with no balancing tests.
    • He wrote Gideon v. Wainwright, requiring states to provide lawyers for poor criminal defendants.
    • He wrote the opinion sending Klan members to federal trial for the Mississippi Burning civil rights murders.
    • He feuded with Justice Robert H. Jackson over recusal and asked to be buried in a simple pine coffin.
    21 min
  • Charles Keating and the Keating Five: The Lincoln Savings Collapse

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    The Keating Five scandal grew out of the savings and loan crisis of the 1980s, when deregulated thrifts gambled federally insured deposits; 747 failed, at a cost of about $160 billion, roughly $124 billion borne by taxpayers. In 1984 Charles Keating's American Continental bought Lincoln Savings and Loan of Irvine, California, and its assets grew from $1.1 billion to $5.5 billion in four years. When Federal Home Loan Bank Board chairman Edwin Gray capped direct investments at 10 percent, Lincoln was about $600 million over. Keating hired economist Alan Greenspan for a supportive study and spread money among five senators: Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, John McCain, Donald Riegle, and John Glenn.

    On April 2, 1987, four of the senators met Gray in DeConcini's office, and on April 9 all five met San Francisco regulators for two hours, only to learn Lincoln was being referred for criminal investigation. McCain cut ties, while the others kept helping. Gray's successor, M. Danny Wall, stalled action until April 1989, as Lincoln tellers steered customers from insured deposits into uninsured American Continental bonds that left about 23,000 people holding worthless paper. After 22 months and live hearings, the Senate Ethics Committee reprimanded Cranston in 1991, criticized DeConcini and Riegle, and faulted Glenn and McCain for poor judgment. Keating went to prison for fraud.

    • Keating steered $850,000 to voter registration groups tied to Cranston plus $85,000 to the California Democratic Party.
    • McCain and his family took nine trips at Keating's expense, three to his Bahamas retreat, and repaid about $13,000 years later.
    • Glenn told the regulators to either charge Lincoln with a crime or get off its back.
    • FDIC chairman L. William Seidman called the bond switch one of the most heartless and cruel frauds in modern memory.
    • Special counsel Robert S. Bennett recommended dropping Glenn and McCain, but the committee kept all five under review.
    24 min
  • Warren Rudman: Gramm-Rudman, David Souter, and the Hart-Rudman Warning

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    Warren B. Rudman was born in Boston in 1930 to a family of Jewish immigrants from Germany, Poland, and Russia and spent most of his life in New Hampshire, settling in Hollis. He attended Valley Forge Military Academy and Syracuse University, earned a Bronze Star as an Army captain in the Korean War, and graduated from Boston College Law School in 1960. By 1970 he was New Hampshire's attorney general. In 1980 he defeated Democratic Senator John Durkin, who resigned days early so Rudman could take office before the new year.

    In the Senate Rudman paired fiscal and defense conservatism with support for abortion rights and gay rights and opposition to a school prayer amendment. He co-authored the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Act, whose sequester forced automatic cuts when deficit targets were missed, and served as vice chairman of the Iran-Contra committee. With White House chief of staff John Sununu, he promoted his friend David Souter for the First Circuit and then the Supreme Court, later writing that he suspected Souter would not be the conservative the Bush administration expected. After leaving the Senate, he co-chaired the Hart-Rudman Commission, which warned of a mass casualty terrorist attack on U.S. soil before September 11. He died of lymphoma in Washington in November 2012.

    • Bill Clinton offered him the post of Treasury Secretary in 1994 to replace Lloyd Bentsen.
    • Ross Perot sought him as a running mate in 1996, and John Kerry put him on his 2004 vice presidential shortlist.
    • He chaired the President's Intelligence Advisory Board under Clinton and George W. Bush and received the Presidential Citizens Medal in 2001.
    • At Paul, Weiss he represented Carlos Hank Rhon and obtained a letter from Janet Reno disavowing a National Drug Intelligence Center report on the Hank family.
    • He co-chaired the Albright Stonebridge Group with Madeleine Albright and sat on the boards of Raytheon and Boston Scientific.
    23 min
  • Albert J. Beveridge: Imperialist Senator Turned Pulitzer Biographer

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    Albert J. Beveridge was born in Ohio in 1862, grew up in Indiana working on farms and as a logger, and put himself through Indiana Asbury University, now DePauw, graduating in 1885. He passed the bar in 1887 and built a national reputation as an orator, campaigning for James G. Blaine in 1884. In 1899, at 36 and without prior elected office, he was chosen for the U.S. Senate from Indiana. He championed annexation of the Philippines and a larger Navy with Henry Cabot Lodge, and as chair of the Committee on Territories from 1901 he admitted Oklahoma while blocking statehood for Arizona and New Mexico, which he considered unfit because of their Hispanic and Native American populations.

    In his second term Beveridge became a progressive ally of Theodore Roosevelt. He drafted the Meat Inspection Act of 1906 after Upton Sinclair's The Jungle, pushed national child labor laws, backed postal savings banks and the Mann-Elkins Act, and broke with William Howard Taft over the Payne-Aldrich Tariff. He turned down the 1908 vice presidential nomination, lost his seat in 1910, gave the keynote at the 1912 Progressive convention, and lost races in 1912, 1914, and 1922. In 1923 he called for abolishing half of all federal boards and commissions. His four volume life of John Marshall won the 1920 Pulitzer Prize, and he died in 1927 while writing a Lincoln biography.

    • In 1901 he met Leo Tolstoy at Yasnaya Polyana and had film of the meeting destroyed to protect his political image.
    • He blocked Arizona and New Mexico by keeping their statehood bills from reaching the Senate floor.
    • He opposed the Payne-Aldrich Tariff as a hidden tax that raised prices on everyday goods.
    • He distrusted Woodrow Wilson's League of Nations as a threat to American sovereignty.
    • The American Historical Association, where he served as secretary, created the Beveridge Award in his memory.
    21 min
  • Bob Kerrey: Medal of Honor, the Thanh Phong Raid, and The New School

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    Bob Kerrey was born in 1943 and raised in Lincoln, Nebraska, and earned a pharmacy degree from the University of Nebraska in 1966 before joining the Navy and SEAL Team One. On March 14, 1969, his team climbed a 350 foot cliff at night on an island in Nha Trang Bay; a grenade shattered his right leg, and he directed a crossfire and the defense of an extraction site until evacuated, earning the Medal of Honor from Richard Nixon in 1970. Weeks earlier, on February 25, 1969, his team raided the village of Thanh Phong. Kerrey described receiving fire and later finding over a dozen dead women and children, teammate Gerhard Klann said civilians were rounded up and killed on orders, and Vietnamese survivors gave their own accounts. The raid earned a Bronze Star and became public in 2001.

    Kerrey built restaurants, fitness centers, and a bowling alley in Nebraska, won the governorship as a Democrat in 1982 with 51 percent, and served one term. In the U.S. Senate from 1989 to 2001 he sat on intelligence, finance, and appropriations, cast the deciding vote for Bill Clinton's 1993 budget, and voted in 1999 to repeal Glass-Steagall. He ran for president in 1992, winning South Dakota. As president of The New School from 2001 to 2011 he doubled the endowment but drew a faculty no confidence vote and student occupations. Critics forced his exit from the Fulbright University Vietnam board, and in 2026 released emails showed contacts with Jeffrey Epstein.

    • Asked about his romance with Debra Winger, he said she swept him off his foot.
    • In 1986 he had the National Guard park a tank on the tracks to stop an unannounced nuclear waste shipment through Nebraska.
    • He called himself agnostic in 2012 though his official biography had listed him as Presbyterian.
    • By 2010 his compensation topped $3 million, the highest of any private college president.
    • In February 2026 he resigned as chairman of the clean energy startup Monolith.
    20 min

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