Pastors don’t start cynical or burned out. But somewhere along the way, the wine runs out and we keep preaching, leading, and carrying burdens we were never meant to carry.

In a Practically Pastoring Conference session, Tim Wildsmith walks through John 2:1–11 and connects it with Matthew 11:28–30, offering a simple but piercing invitation: name the need, surrender the burden, and pursue soul rest in Jesus before ministry emptiness turns into something worse.

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Timestamps:

00:00 – Tim’s story (Belmont, YouTube, Bible nerd life)

03:44 – Why this talk (ministry grind, running on empty)

05:42 – Reading: John 2:1–11 (Wedding at Cana)

08:02 – When the wine runs out (ministry parallels)

10:29 – Mary’s model: “They have no more wine” (name the need)

12:57 – Burnout realities + overwhelming expectations

15:28 – Matthew 11:28–30: where do you go for rest?

19:23 – The “rock” exercise: why we don’t want to set burdens down

22:12 – What is the soul? (Dallas Willard) + “rest for your souls”

25:12 – Take His yoke: you can’t wear both yokes

27:23 – Back to John 2: obedience makes space for Jesus to work

29:10 – Production vs. obedience (faithfulness, not self-sufficiency)

30:04 – Diagnostic questions: where has the wine run out?

32:07 – Practical step: name the need (even hard conversations)

36:24 – Prayer for peace, surrender, and courage

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In this episode, the guys tackle two real-life ministry situations pastors face all the time:

1) What do you do with the church member who constantly needs your attention—daily messages, constant crises, and an emotional drain that starts affecting your ministry and your family?

2) What do you say to the person preaching their very first sermon who feels unqualified, nervous, and unsure where to start?

We talk boundaries, access, expectations, pastoral care vs. professional counseling, and how to prep your first message with clarity and faithfulness.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro + frozen Chicago river banter

0:50 Today’s two questions

1:07 Q1 — “That one member” who constantly needs your attention

1:55 Diagnose the situation: real need vs. unhealthy access

6:14 Standing meetings + boundaries that actually work

8:03 Tender vs. tough (and what to expect when you set limits)

11:04 Systems that protect you (and why access changes everything)

14:38 Pastoral care limits + when to refer out

15:31 Watch your own heart: codependency and the “needed” trap

19:37 Ad — Practically Pastoring Conference

21:22 Ad — Church Merch

23:00 Q2 — “I’m preaching for the first time… where do I start?”

24:07 Prep basics: start with a text, one big idea, rehearse out loud

30:30 Simple sermon frameworks that help you stay clear

34:05 Encouragement story + God using imperfect messengers

39:05 First-sermon mistakes (and practical tips you’ll thank us for)

41:31 The main goal: you’ve “been with Jesus”

42:53 Closing + conference reminder

43:34 Outro

Resources mentioned:

- Boundaries (Henry Cloud & John Townsend)

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet - ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠

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Welcome back to Practically Pastoring. In this episode, we pull two real questions from Reddit and get painfully practical.

Question 1: A rural Methodist pastor has seen real growth, but the “old guard” is wearing him down with constant complaints and unreasonable expectations.

Question 2: A bi-vocational pastor/CTO is overloaded and torn between an IT master’s (paid for by work) and a doctorate in Bible exposition, while trying to protect his health and family time. 

Timestamps / Chapters

00:00 — Intro + why Reddit questions hit so hard

00:29 — Question 1: “The old guard is making me miserable” (rural Methodist church)

01:14 — The complaint list (and why some of it is wild)

02:42 — Committees, bureaucracy, and the shadow side of church systems

05:16 — “They want a chaplain” and resetting expectations for pastoral care

07:10 — Perception is reality: communication, tone, and leadership clarity

09:32 — The 80/20 rule: it feels like “everyone,” but it’s usually not

10:49 — Leverage you don’t realize you have (and who to call)

12:30 — Ad: Practically Pastoring Conference (Feb 9–11, 2026)

14:50 — Ad: Church Merch (quality merch people actually want)

15:53 — Question 2: Bi-vocational pastor/CTO overwhelmed and choosing degrees

18:25 — Stewardship, margin, health, and family: what can you actually carry?

19:38 — Prioritizing earning potential and ministry margin

21:27 — Andrew’s offer: email if you want to talk doctorates at Liberty

23:26 — Frank’s take: bi-vocational life has limits, and that’s okay

26:09 — Free learning options (seminary resources, YouTube, Greek tools)

28:25 — Closing + subscribe + conference reminder

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet - ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠

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In this episode, the guys flip the script and interview Frank and Tim.Part 1: Frank gives a real-time update on the Cross & Crown Church plant (what’s working, what’s hard, what’s next, and the hunt for a launch location).Part 2: Tim walks through what it’s actually like for a sending church to release a pastor and dozens of people, while also preparing for a major vision campaign and building expansion at Lakeview.If you’re planting, sending, or leading through transition, this one’s for you. Timestamps / Chapters00:00 — Episode setup: two interviews, one episode01:02 — Frank update: Good Gift Pop-Up, prayer & fasting, startup party, launch team gathering03:12 — The biggest challenge right now: finding a location (schools, backups, and wild options)11:09 — Ad: Practically Pastoring Conference (Feb 9–11, 2026)13:34 — Ad: Church Merch (get great merch for your church)14:13 — Launch team growth: where they’re at, the goal of 100, and why it matters18:05 — How to invite people without sounding salesy (startup parties + clear next steps)20:08 — Reaching the community: word-of-mouth + VisitorReach + community events23:42 — Switching to Tim: sending a pastor, sending people, and the real impact on the church26:19 — Where Lakeview will feel it most: worship team + kids ministry + staffing transition28:13 — Hiring Frank’s replacement + what 2026 will require from the church31:24 — Vision series: planting + future plans + rallying the church to serve and give32:56 — Building/vision campaign: how it started, what surprised Tim, what’s next37:39 — 60 meetings in 60 days + leading by example in giving39:54 — Wrap-up + ways to share and stay connectedLinks from the show:Listen anywhere: ⁠⁠https://practicallypastoring.com/⁠⁠Join our Facebook Group: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/practicallypastoring⁠⁠Follow us in Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/practicallypastoring⁠⁠Church Merch - https://www.promotionsguy.com/churchmerchHosts:🧔🏽‍♂️ Frank Gil - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/pastorfrankgil/⁠⁠👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet - ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠Listen or Watch on🎧 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0xJqPmXn1MqaznnV8MHFKx?si=4a942df64e48410e🍎 Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/practical-ly-pastoring/id1522043414📺 YouTube - https://youtu.be/uwjN2WvbSGc💻 PracticallyPastoring.com🔔 Subscribe & Turn on Notifications so you never miss an episode!Want to be in the room with other pastors?Practically Pastoring Conference (Feb 9–11, 2026, Tarpon Springs, FL): https://practicallypastoring.com/conference

In this episode, Frank, Andrew, Jeff, and Delmar talk about the real pressure points we are feeling heading into 2026, what ministry plays are losing traction, and what we’re personally changing so we can last for the long haul (without burning out our people or ourselves).Timestamps 00:00 — Welcome back + New Year banter (and the great “koozie vs cozy” debate)01:49 — Q1: Biggest pressure point in 2026 (delegation, space, contentment vs complacency, church-plant overwhelm)16:25 — Ad: Practically Pastoring Conference (what it is, who it’s for)19:56 — Q2: One ministry play that used to work but won’t in 2026 (come-and-consume, texting vs email, “authentic” as a strategy, pastor your context)39:23 — Ad: Church Merch (stop making cringe shirts)41:00 — Q3: If you could only focus on one thing this year… (depth over breadth, do what only you can do, discipleship that multiplies)46:35 — Q4: What are you changing in 2026 so you can last? (rest, health, reading, margin, marriage, boundaries)57:18 — Wrap-up + next steps (FB group + conference)Join the Practically Pastoring Facebook Group (we pull questions and topics from there).Register for the Practically Pastoring Conference (Feb 9–11) + use code JEFFHATESAI for a discount.Practically Pastoring Conference: https://practicallypastoring.com/conferenceUpgrade your church merch (t-shirts/hoodies/guest gifts/volunteer shirts) without the 2007 youth-camp clip art.Church Merch: https://www.promotionsguy.com/churchmerchLinks from the show:🌐 Listen anywhere: ⁠⁠https://practicallypastoring.com/⁠⁠🫂 Join our Facebook Group: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/practicallypastoring⁠⁠👕 Follow us in Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/practicallypastoring⁠⁠Hosts:🧔🏽‍♂️ Frank Gil - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/pastorfrankgil/⁠⁠👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet - ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠Listen or Watch on🎧 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0xJqPmXn1MqaznnV8MHFKx?si=4a942df64e48410e🍎 Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/practical-ly-pastoring/id1522043414📺 YouTube - https://youtu.be/uwjN2WvbSGc💻 PracticallyPastoring.com

Is Advent a Catholic tradition, or just a really old Christian rhythm we forgot existed?

In this Advent themed episode, we answer two real pastor questions:

1. “Is Advent a Catholic tradition? Will this cause issues in a Baptist church?” 

2. “Do you sing Christmas carols during Advent, or wait until Christmas Eve?” (Also, why is this guy getting ambushed in elder meetings?)

We talk history, Baptist baggage, and the practical “how do I introduce this without detonating my church” stuff. Plus, we settle the great candle debate: real or electric, and how new the carpet is definitely matters. 

00:00 Cold open

00:49 Question 1: “Is Advent a Catholic tradition?” 

03:12 How to introduce Advent without chaos (and why you should not just drop it in) 

10:59 “Isn’t Advent a Catholic thing?” A simple intro that works 

13:23 Why Advent helps your sermon calendar (and saves your brain) 

14:57 Practically Pastoring Conference  

16:47 Sponsor: Church Merch (stop wearing the 2004 VBS shirt) 

17:55 Question 2: Christmas carols during Advent, yes or no?

21:30 “This is bigger than song choice” the pastoral issue underneath

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet -  ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠

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Welcome to the Practically Pastoring Hot Takes Episode — the one where we unintentionally roast half of evangelicalism and guarantee Andrew never gets invited to another conference again.

From At-the-Movies sermons, to canceling church the Sunday after Christmas, to whether bad coffee means you hate visitors… this might be the most unhinged—and honest—episode we’ve ever recorded.



Grab your headphones, brace yourself, and enjoy the chaos.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – The intro that might get us all fired

00:35 – Hot Take #1: At-the-Movies (We said what we said)

05:10 – Is the seeker-sensitive era dead?

09:26 – Conference ad read (but actually funny)

10:42 – Hot Take #2: Canceling the Sunday after Christmas

19:36 – Why “Sabbath Sunday” might be missing the point

20:45 – Hot Take #3: Your livestream probably needs help

27:22 – Why live-stream views don’t count as attendance

30:11 – Hot Take #4: Multi-site churches & accidental celebrity culture

37:11 – When a campus pastor becomes a hostage

38:32 – Hot Take #5: “We’re just being faithful…” or are we lazy?

45:16 – Church revitalization and marketing

46:19 – Lightning Round Hot Takes

47:00 – Kids in service

48:52 – Women on stage

49:57 – Delegation or insecurity?

52:47 – The real story behind “church hurt”

56:26 – The most divisive issue of all: church coffee

01:00:00 – Frank’s wife Cori gets dragged into the show again

01:01:12 – Conference invite + chaos outro

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Today’s episode starts innocently enough with a simple question about office hours……and ends with one of the wildest Reddit pastor stories we’ve EVER read.

We’re talking:• Should pastors still keep traditional office hours?• How do you stay available without being chained to a church building?• Where do you meet people for confidential conversations?• How do you build culture when your staff is hybrid or remote?• AND… what happens when a pastor and his wife get “caught” in the church office after hours 😬 (yes, really).

00:00 Cold Open: The wildest church-office story ever
00:25 Why pastors need to rethink office hours
01:06 How different churches handle staff availability
02:15 Where should pastors meet for private conversations?
03:24 Does anyone actually “drop by” the office anymore?
05:15 How COVID changed the way churches think about office space
06:51 The realities of meetings, flexibility, and hospital calls
09:22 Using Calendly & Google Calendar for pastoral care
12:29 How to set healthy availability rhythms
15:00 Private meetings: where should they REALLY happen?
17:15 Why having an office can still matter
18:00 Should pastors be expected to keep “office hours”?
21:20 Why some pastors write better sermons in coffee shops
22:04 Practically Pastoring Conference 2026
23:27 Sponsor: Church Merch
24:21 The Reddit Story: Pastor caught having relations in his office
29:06 Is it wrong, weird, or both?
31:13 Is this a fireable offense?
34:11 Boundaries, foolishness, and pastoral wisdom
37:01 How polity and accountability impact this conversation
39:34 Why this affects your witness and your church culture
44:20 Final thoughts & Facebook Group invite

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In this episode of the Practically Pastoring Podcast, the guys tackle some of the real parts of church leadership — like how to respond when disgruntled members try to recruit others, whether it’s okay to reuse old sermons, and what actually works for men’s and women’s ministry events.

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet - ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠

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It’s Pastor Appreciation Month — but how should churches actually handle it? This week, the guys get honest about recognizing pastors, the misuse of the “pastor” title, developing small group leaders, and what to do when you’re burned out and ready to quit ministry.

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 — Cold Open: Pastor Appreciation Month is weird

00:51 — Should churches only honor the lead pastor?

03:35 — How different churches celebrate pastors

05:19 — When Pastor Appreciation Month gets awkward

07:03 — How lead pastors can appreciate their staff

08:17 — Are youth pastors “real pastors”?

10:29 — What the Bible actually says about the role of pastor/elder

11:13 — Rise & Fall, ordination, and rushing people into ministry

13:20 — Why American church culture gets the title “pastor” wrong

14:23 — The discipleship issue behind church leadership titles

15:24 — Youth pastor longevity & maturity in ministry

16:19 — Should you start Pastor Appreciation Month at your church?

17:13 — 💥 Practically Pastoring Conference 2026 (Feb 9–11, Lakeview Church)

21:11 — How to develop and onboard small group leaders

24:25 — The “Coach, Contact, Celebrate” method for retaining volunteers

26:40 — Don’t confuse hosting a small group with leading one

28:44 — Building healthy structures and rotations for small groups

35:16 — When to ask someone to lead (and for how long)

35:37 — When you want to quit ministry but still love the church

36:57 — Burnout, calling, and waiting on God’s timing

39:16 — Staying faithful when ministry gets hard

45:05 — “You’re not a bad pastor for being tired”

46:22 — Finding community and healing when you step back from ministry

48:19 — Prayer for pastors who are hurting

49:19 — Outro + Practically Pastoring Conference reminder

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