Leaving a church, especially when you're in leadership, is never easy. In this episode, the guys dive into how to discern when it's time to leave, how to exit with grace, and how to care well for the people you're leaving behind.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro and welcome

01:10 – Sponsor: Church Merch

02:10 – Reddit Post: Youth Pastor Seeking Exit Advice

03:20 – When church leadership dysfunction prompts leaving

04:15 – Avoiding a victim mindset when leaving

05:00 – Trusting God to care for those you leave

06:00 – How to communicate your exit without causing drama

07:30 – Focusing on where you're going, not what you're leaving

08:45 – Dispelling rumors and over communicating

10:00 – Teaching kids about healthy transitions

12:00 – Leaving well vs. spiritual codependency

14:00 – When staying too long causes harm

16:00 – Personal stories and lessons from past transitions

18:00 – Final thoughts on leaving with integrity

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet - ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠

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This week on Practically Pastoring, we’re talking about one of the most frustrating parts of church leadership: getting people to sign up for stuff! From event planning woes to generational divides, we’re diving deep into why people avoid sign-up sheets and how pastors can adapt and lead with wisdom and grace.

⏰ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro & Topic Setup

01:15 - Listener Question from Reddit

03:20 - Why People Don’t Sign Up

05:00 - Generational Differences in Sign-Ups

06:45 - Burnout and Fear of Overcommitting

08:00 - Letting Events Flop (On Purpose!)

10:00 - Casting Vision for Sign-Ups

13:30 - Tools: Planning Center, Google Forms, Meal Train

16:00 - Announcements Strategy That Actually Works

21:30 - Event Fatigue and Killing Sacred Cows

27:00 - Making Sign-Ups Frictionless

30:00 - Relational Recruiting Over Mass Messaging

35:00 - Final Thoughts: It’s Gonna Be Okay

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👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet - ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠

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In this episode, the Practically Pastoring crew tackles a tough but necessary topic: what do you do when a long-time volunteer is actually causing harm in your ministry? From nursery drama to worship team woes, the guys share practical advice on how to set clear expectations, implement safe church policies, and have those difficult conversations with grace and firmness.

⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro & Church Merch Shoutout
02:20 - Listener Question: The Problematic Nursery Volunteer
04:45 - Stories of Inheriting Difficult Volunteers
06:00 - Using Policy to Address Outdated Practices
08:40 - Why It's So Hard to Have These Conversations
10:30 - The Role of Elders and Church Leadership
12:30 - Avoiding Emotional Fallout
14:10 - Honoring Legacy While Making Changes
16:00 - Practical Tips for Onboarding and Training Volunteers
20:00 - Who Should Be in the Room for the Hard Talk?
23:00 - Preparing for Emotional Blowback
25:00 - Advice for Younger Pastors

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠
👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet - ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠
👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠
🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠

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In this episode of Practically Pastoring, we tackle a brutally honest question from a young pastor on Reddit: “What do I do when the church I pastor isn’t one I would even attend?”

If you’ve ever found yourself disillusioned in church leadership, unsure how to lead change without blowing things up, or just feeling like a glorified chaplain instead of a visionary leader—this conversation is for you. We talk about how young pastors can handle resistance in established churches, how to keep showing up when your ministry expectations don’t match reality, and how to kill the idols of platform and popularity in favor of faithful ministry.

You'll hear real stories, raw encouragement, and practical wisdom for discerning when it’s time to press on—and when it might be time to move on. Whether you're battling pastoral burnout, navigating church vision challenges, or just trying to love a congregation that doesn’t seem to want to change, we hope this episode meets you right where you are.

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Cold Open & Sponsor Shoutout (Church Merch!)02:00 – The Reddit Question: “I’m Just a Chaplain Now”04:15 – Why 2.5 Years Isn’t Enough to Lead Major Change06:30 – Pastoring vs. Idealism: Facing Reality with Grace10:00 – The “Reach the City” Idol & Unrealistic Expectations13:00 – Can You Serve a Church You Wouldn’t Attend?17:00 – Building Trust Before Leading Change20:00 – Finding Low-Hanging Fruit to Start Vision24:00 – When Older Members Say They Want Young People…26:00 – Discernment: Faithfulness or Futility?29:00 – Killing Bitterness, Finding Calling31:00 – How a Ministry Brotherhood Can Save Your Soul33:00 – Final Encouragement: Feed the Sheep, Not Flip a Franchise

Whether you're a senior leader or still early in your ministry journey, this episode offers a lifeline of clarity and compassion in the tension between church health, personal calling, and quiet faithfulness. If you're feeling stuck or discouraged—you are not alone."

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🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠

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In this episode of Practically Pastoring, Frank, Jeff, Delmar, Andrew, and Timothy dive deep into the growing cynicism toward the evangelical church. From meme accounts like Pastors with Props to heartbreaking scandals, distrust in church leadership is only getting worse.

We also discuss the solution of faithfulness over time, the importance of authenticity, and how to shepherd hurting people who are walking into our churches carrying heavy cynicism.

If you’re a pastor, ministry leader, or someone who's been feeling the tension around church culture lately — this conversation is for you.

🕒 Timestamps:00:00 - Intro and Church Distrust Today00:48 - Meet the Team + Church Merch Ad03:18 - How Meme Accounts Like Pastors with Props Are Fueling Cynicism05:03 - The Craziest Church Props We’ve Seen07:56 - Are Props in Preaching a Problem or a Tool?10:36 - What's Legitimate Criticism of the Modern Church?12:01 - Lavish Lifestyles, Abuse Scandals, and Trust Broken14:30 - Personality-Driven Churches and Authority Misuse15:44 - Inauthenticity in Churches and Why It Matters18:19 - How Cynicism Is Showing Up in Our Churches22:20 - Is Cynicism Different Between Generations?24:00 - Are Smaller Churches More Immune to Distrust?26:19 - What’s the Way Forward: How Pastors Should Rspond29:30 - Admitting When We’re Wrong (Serious Moment)30:34 - Ending on a Lighter Note: Our Favorite Sermon Props33:00 - Final Thoughts and How to Engage With Us

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In this episode of Practically Pastoring, the crew debriefs Easter Sunday. What went well? What went sideways? And how do you lead through the Super Bowl of church services without losing your soul (or your voice)?

Plus, we get into:

• The emotional and logistical pressure pastors face on Easter

• Whether small churches should try to “compete” with bigger ones

• Why WrestleMania made it into our Sunday reflections

• What happens after Easter: follow-up, fatigue, and finding your rhythm again

👉 We also talk hydrangeas, visitor strategy, and why resurrection doesn’t end on Sunday.

⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Intro & Easter morning vibes04:10 – Wins, whiffs & weird moments from our services17:30 – Are small churches trying too hard to act big?29:00 – Post-Easter follow-up plans (or lack thereof)38:45 – Why Easter can feel both sacred and stressful47:15 – Encouragement for the week after Easter

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠ 

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet -  ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠ 

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠ 

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠ 

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In this episode of Practically Pastoring, the guys dive into two hot-button topics every pastor needs to wrestle with:

👉 A youth pastor crosses several boundaries—what should happen next? Is it just unwise... or something worse?

👉 Can church staff with different political views work together? What does unity look like when red hats and blue hair share the same ministry?

⏱️ Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro & Church Merch

02:00 – Should this youth pastor step down?

17:00 – Small churches + big boundary issues

27:00 – Can Republicans and Democrats serve on the same staff?

36:00 – When politics hijack your witness

48:00 – Why policy ≠ control—it’s wisdom

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠ 

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet -  ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠ 

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠ 

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠ 

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In this episode of the Practically Pastoring Podcast, the crew dives into two HUGE topics in church leadership and youth ministry:

1️⃣ What should churches do when a teenage girl wants to bring her newborn baby to youth group?
2️⃣ Should we finally kill off the paper bulletin and go fully digital?

We unpack the pastoral heart behind pro-life ministry, how to care well for young moms, the messiness of real church life, and the very real pushback from church parents. Plus, we get super practical about communication tools—QR codes, NFC tags, Church Center, and why Frank’s emails are now getting 60% open rates 😎

Timestamps:

00:00 – Intros + March Madness Bracket Banter

02:52 – Teen Mom Wants to Bring Her Baby to Youth Group

05:00 – The Gospel Response to Teen Pregnancy

08:50 – Why Adversity Creates Unity in Youth Ministry

10:00 – Have the Baby Shower. Period.

12:00 – Church Parents and the “Sanitized” Youth Group Myth

15:00 – How to Communicate Hard Stuff with Lead Pastors

16:15 – Should We Ditch the Church Bulletin?

20:00 – Communication Tools That Actually Work

31:00 – Why Frank’s Email Strategy is Crushing It

36:00 – QR Codes, NFC Tags, and the Mark of the Beast 😂

38:00 – Wrap-Up + Where to Connect With Us

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠ 

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet -  ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠ 

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠ 

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠ 

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In this episode of the Practically Pastoring Podcast, we tackle two HUGE challenges for pastors:

1️⃣ How do you tell a worship leader they can’t sing? 🎤 What happens when someone’s heart is in the right place… but their voice isn’t? We break down the awkward, hilarious, and painful reality of handling these tough conversations.

2️⃣ Why is church hiring SO slow and frustrating? ⏳ One pastor shares his struggle after being rejected by three churches—what’s really going on in the church hiring process, and how can pastors navigate it?

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🧔🏽‍♂️ Frank Gil - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/pastorfrankgil/⁠⁠ 

👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠ 

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet -  ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠ 

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠ 

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠ 

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In this episode of Practically Pastoring Podcast, we tackle a tough but all-too-common question: "When is it time to leave your church job?" A youth pastor is struggling with leadership conflicts, and we break down the real reasons pastors leave, the 18-month youth pastor turnover trend, and whether staying or leaving is the right move.

We also dive into church finances—should your church require three quotes before buying anything expensive? Or is that just unnecessary bureaucracy? Plus, hilarious moments, brutal honesty about church culture, and practical advice for ministry leaders.

👉 Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro & Sponsor Shoutout

3:50 - Should This Youth Pastor Quit?

6:00 - Why Most Youth Pastors Only Last 18 Months

13:00 - Leaving One Church… Just to Face the Same Problems?

19:06 - Should Churches Get Three Quotes Before Big Purchases?2

7:00 - Why Loyalty Can Cost Your Church Money

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👨🏼 Jeff Simpson - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeffcsimpson/⁠⁠ 

👱🏼‍♂️ Delmar Peet -  ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/delmarpeet/⁠⁠ 

👨🏼‍💼 Andrew Larsen - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andrewjlarsen/⁠⁠ 

🏋🏼 Timothy Miller - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/timothyamiller/⁠⁠ 

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