In this episode of the ICT&Health Podcast, Larry Brilliant talks about the next pandemic, but not in the way you might expect. Not a virus, but a global pandemic of chronic diseases that is shortening our healthy life years. He shares sharp insights on the gap between life expectancy and healthy life expectancy, the economic impact of disease, the role of prevention and innovation, and tells the remarkable story behind the global eradication of smallpox. A conversation about health, leadership, and the choice we must make now for the future.