Ingmar and Konstantin disagree about the future of battery electric vehicles and hybrids. They trace it back to one key wildcard factor.

When it comes to the impact of a petrol-free future on our lives however, they agree.

We nerd out about different approaches to autonomous driving, which companies have the best shot at making it happen, if ever. We also talk about second-order effects, how an autonomous future will impact the world around us.