Podcasts of interest. This week, the boys are back in NYC for a deep conversation with everyone's favorite fashion podcaster (besides us of course), Articles of Interest's Avery Trufelman. Avery was kind enough to take some time off from dominating the charts to speak on her most exhaustive season of the show yet, Prep vs. Ivy, quintessential pieces, brands and icons, chasing Ralph Lauren, what she thinks of the new J.Crew, prep revival gaslighting, 2023 trend predictions, why certain fashion is so, well, white, how the Japanese do Americana better than America, an elevator pitch without using the words "classic" and "timeless", the seasonal podcast model and the vigorous research that fuels it, future topics of interest, her work getting showered with praise, rare haters, famous listeners, the media diet of an elite podcaster, what brands she actually wears, constructive criticism for Throwing Fits, getting bullied by the preppy kids growing up, can Ivy be sexy and much more on this informative and iconic episode of The Only Podcast That Matters™.

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