Presence: Here is a podcast conversation discussing the essay Presence from the book Ghosts of Parenting, exploring presence not as attention, emotional availability, or something to get right, but as a lived condition that unfolds across years, the quiet reality of staying, returning after interruption, and carrying responsibility even when tired, distracted, or unsure. The discussion names why presence feels heavy, how it is often mistaken for a skill to improve, and what changes when it is recognised as something already being held, moving through the hidden strain of long term care, how presence shifts shape as children grow, and how connection is built not through perfection, but through continuity and reliable return, giving language to the invisible labour many parents live every day without ever seeing clearly named.