According to Arizona State University's president, Dr. Michael Crow, the current higher education context needs a different kind of leadership.  Crow calls for an intellectual leader, an intellectual architect and designer who can think and lead in new ways.  In this episode we speak with President Crow and his co-author of The Fifth Wave: The Evolution of American Higher Education, Dr. William Dabars about the remarkable transformation of ASU under Crow's leadership. Listen in to learn what strategies have been most impactful and what new innovations President Crow is particularly excited about.