On December 11, 2018, Medgar Evers College President Dr. Rudy Crew sat down with former President of South Africa Kgalema Motlanthe. On the 60th anniversary of Chinua Achebe’s classic novel, Things Fall Apart, they discuss the enduring qualities and lasting impact of his seminal work. Their conversation touches on how the struggle for liberation and education equality in Africa mirrors the struggles of African-Americans in the United States.