David talks about Kirk Cameron's pastor, Rex Holt, and how exposure to seeker-sensitive, Purpose Driven church culture may have shaped Kirk's shift. He argues that annihilationism is a first-order, gospel-distorting heresy because it undermines penal substitutionary atonement and the necessity of Christ’s exclusive, perfect sacrifice, and calls the church to stand firmly on eternal conscious torment as a non-negotiable biblical truth.