On this week’s episode of Primitive Moves, Marco’s in the hot seat himself. You’ve heard Professor Drew Murphy throw out some hardball questions in earlier episodes—now he’s tossing them Marco’s way. Marco lays out the key lessons in his R.O.A.M.I.N.G. acronym, then explains how to find that one job that doesn’t feel like a job. As you’ll hear, Drew had plenty of advice to share, too.

Bill Heyman is the founder and CEO of Heyman Associates, a world-class executive search company. He’s recruited talent for top communications roles at some of the biggest brands in the world. He’s also a graduate of Gettysburg College, playing a pivotal role in the college’s entrepreneurship program, and a recipient of the 2021 Larry Foster Award for Integrity in Public Communication.

Greg Zuckerman has broken news for the Wall Street Journal for decades, covering financial trades, hedge funds, and just about everything else. He’s also the author of several books about people who overcome the odds to thrive in business, including "The Man Who Solved the Market," "The Frackers," and "The Greatest Trade Ever."

Mallika Chopra is an author, speaker, meditation teacher, entrepreneur, and mom. Her father, Deepak Chopra, helped kickstart the meditation and mindfulness movement here in the US, but she’s a force all her own. Her new book, Just Be You, helps children understand themselves and their emotions by giving them the tools needed to live a good life. She has given multiple TEDx Talks, including one on living with intent.

Brothers Ari and Noah Meyerowitz took charge of Sproutman after their father passed away in 2015—when the brothers were just 25 and 16. They’ve transformed the business into a healthy eating powerhouse that sells organic sprouting seeds that are easy to grow, good for the environment, and more nutritious than supermarket vegetables.

Jackie Adams covered the Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush White Houses at CBS News before becoming the head of a boutique strategic communications firm, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and now the co-author of "A Blessing: Women of Color Teaming Up to Lead, Empower, and Thrive."

Love Whelchel has spent years in the entertainment, advertising, and tech sectors, starting as a roady for N.W.A, working as the global chief talent officer at Y&R, and the chief human resources officer at Sean "P. Diddy" Combs's Bad Boy Entertainment. He's currently a digital entertainment and technology entrepreneur.

From British Merchant Navy officer and semi-pro soccer player to a leader in the ever-evolving U.S. healthcare industry, Alan J. Murray's had a lot of jobs. He's currently president and CEO of Empire BlueCross BlueShield’s commercial plan in New York. On this episode, Marco and Alan take a deep look at how finding your passion can empower you in the workplace, and at how to take failure and turn it into a success story.

Learn how to make Primitive Moves in your career with Marco Greenberg, author of "Primitive: Tapping the Primal Drive that Powers the World's Most Successful People."