By Tiffany Zhong and Alexis Ohanian
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The podcast currently has 12 episodes available.
In Episode 12 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) wraps up season 1 with the best moments of each episode. If you're just joining the Islands' community, this is a great episode to hear summaries of each episode to see which ones you'd like to go back and listen to.
This season TZ and Alexis talked with Justin Aversano, Keith Grossman, Noah Davis, ThankYouX, Bobby Hundreds, Betty from Deadfellaz, Farokh from Rug Radio, Mike Dudas, Jacob Martin, and Evan Keast. You can find each episode linked to Spotify and Apple down below.
Season 1 Episodes:
Episode 1: Alexis Ohanian - Cofounder of Reddit, Founder of 776. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 2: Justin Aversano - NFT artist of projects like Twin Flames. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 3: Keith Grossman - President of Time Magazine. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 4: Noah Davis - NFT Specialist at Christie's Auction House. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 5: ThankYouX - NFT artist of projects like Frequency. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 6: Bobby Hundreds - Cofounder of Adam Bomb Squad and The Hundreds. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 7: Betty - Cofounder of Deadfellaz. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 8: Farokh - Founder of Rug Radio. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 9: Mike Dudas - Founder of LinksDAO. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 10: Jacob Martin - The NFT Attorney. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
Episode 11: Evan Keast - Cofounder of Doodles. Listen on Spotify, Apple, and for everywhere else click here.
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In Episode 11 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis (@alexisohanian) talk with Evan Keast aka Tulip, who is one of the co-founders of Doodles. Evan has been a part of the NFT community since almost the beginning as he worked at Dapper Labs before starting Doodles with Poopie and Burnt Toast. In this episode, TZ and Alexis dive into Tulip’s story to learn more about how the Doodles team came together, what is coming next for the project, and why Doodles is not CC0 right now.
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1:32: How did Tulip get into NFTs?
4:35: How has the NFT world progressed through multiple crypto winters?
7:17: What is happening as more talent from different backgrounds are moving into web3?
13:34: What about Doodles resonated with so many people and cause it to be successful?
15:22: How did the Doodle team come together?
21:45: Why is Doodles not CC0?
26:38: How much of web2 community and company building is Doodles bringing into web3?
27:35: Where does Tulip see Doodles in 5 years?
29:22: How working at Dapper Labs helped with launching Doodles.
30:58: What Tulip loves about Doodles.
31:54: What projects or communities inspire Tulip?
35:25: If Tulip was stranded on an island, what NFT would he bring?
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Projects that inspire Tulip/What he is keeping an eye on
Come build The Community Platform for web3 with us!
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In Episode 10 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis (@alexisohanian) bring on the NFT Attorney, Jacob Martin (@thenftattorney). Jacob has had one of the best 2021s in web3 as he turned $5,000 into a sizeable 7-figure portfolio by flipping NFTs and being a part of certain DAOs. Jacob came onto the show to share how a 26-year old lawyer is one of the leading law experts in web3 with only 2 years of traditional law experience, what he looks for in projects, and what he believes 2022 will bring for web3.
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1:47: How did Jacob get into NFTs
4:33: Why Jacob’s startup didn’t work
7:69: Jacob’s crazy 2021
15:51: How being a lawyer helped Jacob find good NFT deals
20:17: America’s renting vs owning culture
22:07: Transitioning from Lawyer to Investor
24:29: Ready Player DAO
24:35: Red DAO
32:06: Experimental DAOs are the future.
34:57: The issues with credentialism
42:12: Which NFT would Jacob take onto his Island?
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Ready Player Dao (@ReadyPlayerDao)
Red Dao (@Red__DAO)
Cryptokitties (@CryptoKitties)
Cryptopunks
Veefriends by Gary Vaynerchuk (@garyvee)
Dapper Labs (@dapperlabs)
Evan Kearst (@evankearst)
Jordan Castro (@poopie)
Scott Martin (@burnttoast)
Meebits
Squiggle (@squiggles)
Come build The Community Platform for web3 with us!
🤝 Islands is hiring if you or anyone you know wants to help build the NFT community platform for the next era of the Internet!
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In Episode 9 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg), Alexis (@alexisohanian), and Mike Dudas (@mdudas) talk about how Links DAO (@LinksDAO) was created in 18 days. Links DAO is reimagining the country club by creating a modern-day golf & leisure club. TZ, Alexis, and Mike dive into the specifics of how Links DAO will work, how Links DAO will break down the barriers into the previously exclusive sport of golf, and even dive into the complicated legal side of setting up a DAO.
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0:00: How did Mike get started in NFTs?
7:08: How Links DAO launched in 1 month
9:22: How does Links DAO aim to be inclusive
14:56: How do you decide what decisions are made by “the people” vs the core team?
20:12: How do you build a team that builds a DAO?
22:34: Don’t YOLO the legal side
28:24: How does Links DAO work?
34:29: What NFT would Mike bring on his island?
- Mentions -
Gary Vaynerchuk (@garyvee)
AJ Vaynerchuk (@ajv)
Flyfish club (@flyfishclub)
Links DAO (@LinksDAO)
Bored Ape Yacht Club (@BoredApeYC)
Constitution DAO (@ConstitutionDAO)
Come build The Community Platform for web3 with us!
🤝 Islands is hiring if you or anyone you know wants to help build the NFT community platform for the next era of the Internet!
🌊 Join our Discord to chat about the podcast or anything else
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Islands Team 🏝
In Episode 8 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis (@alexisohanian) chat with Farokh (@farokh), Founder of Rug Radio (@RugRadio). Rug Radio is aiming to become the first ever decentralized media company. In this episode, Farokh shares his journey building communities online, why Rug Radio is important to him, and why memes are so important in web3.
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1:08: How did Farokh learn about NFTs?
5:11: Why does Farokh spends hours on web3?
7:48: When did a Community Manager role becomes an actual job?
9:30: Why Farokh left law school for community management
12:40: How has community changed from platform to platform?
14:56: The tactics that Farokh uses to build community
20:08: How does web3 respond to the grifters and scammers?
23:14: What does Farokh want to be known for?
27:18: The rise of memes
29:22: What does it mean to be “rugged”?
32:34: What is Rug Radio?
39.55: What would it take for Farokh to go back to clubhouse?
47:38: What NFT would Farokh bring onto his island
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Come build The Community Platform for web3 with us!
🤝 Islands is hiring if you or anyone you know wants to help build the NFT community platform for the next era of the Internet!
🌊 Join our Discord to chat about the podcast or anything else
🐦 See you on the bird app: follow Islands and 776
Islands Team 🏝
In Episode 7 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis (@alexisohanian) chat with Betty (@betty_nft), co-founder and “Horde Mother” of Deadfellaz NFT collection. Deadfellaz is an NFT project consisting of 10,000 “undead NFTs on the Ethereum blockchain.” In this episode, Betty shares how she assessed the risk of launching an NFT project, how we can continue to break down barriers in web3, and why building an anonymous team is the future.
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1:35: Betty’s superhero origin story
8:13: Why is Betty “anonymous”?
12:02: How can we continue to take down barriers for marginalized communities in web3?
14:26: Betty’s Favorite women based artists/projects
18:00: Why NFTs are the way that the average person can be an early-stage investor
24:10: How does Betty manage her time?
27:23: Betty’s advice for future NFT projects
34:44: What is it like to work with an anonymous team?
39:21: What’s your desert island NFT?
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- Highlights -
*How Betty got into NFT’s*
“I was like, I mean, we've worked in creative production together on a corporate level for really amazing brands for years, so the production side of it is something that we do anyway. And having been involved in the communities and things I was like, let's just do our own (NFT).”
“The idea for Deadfellaz just came really organically. We love horror, and we had been discussing like the fascination with zombies across pop culture and how it brings so many people together and I think that people love spooky stuff.”
*Why Deadfellaz had to succeed*
“And it was like, you know, we either throw ourselves into this and it works or it doesn't work and so though that was like the fire, obviously, we have three children, it had to work. And the more we just sat down, it was like, it is going to be amazing.”
*Anonymity and Pseudonyms may be the future*
“It's like the second identity, this alter ego that they can't have their colleagues or clients knowing about. And I'm seeing this happen more and more as people want to spend more time in web3.”
“We all have that responsibility, it shouldn't just be me and a handful of other women and gender diverse people and people of color and indigenous people fighting for themselves, it needs to be everyone.”
*Investing in NFTs is like early-stage investing*
Alexis: “I look at these projects, and it's the vibes of the creators. It's their intention, their thoughtfulness, certainly the art and the thoughtfulness of the product. But then it's the community and who here has the sort of minimum viable community to do something that I think will be special in 10 years, not in two months, or 10 hours, but a decade?”
*Building a team in web3*
“The trust is there from the work that people have produced and the validation of their association with other people, like our Decentraland team, we've never met them. We've never seen them.”
In Episode 6 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis Ohanian (@alexisohanian) chat with with Bobby Hundreds (@bobbyhundreds), founder of streetwear brand The Hundreds. Bobby is also the creator of the Adam Bomb Squad, an NFT project consisting of 25,000 pieces each related to the history of the Hundreds company. In this episode you’ll hear about the similarities and differences of building a streetwear company versus an NFT project. You’ll also learn about why community and durability are so important to building a brand, and whether Bobby considers The Hundreds to be a successful brand after 18 years in existence.
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2:00: Who is Bobby Hundreds?
04:50: How did Bobby move a web2 company into the web3 space?
09:09: What is most important for the Hundreds?
12:40: Community and its importance to brand building.
17:00: How did Bobby first get into NFTs and what helped him understand them?
22:00: How does building the Hundreds compare to Adam Bomb Squad?
26:05: Why projects become cash grabs.
32:34: How will The Hundreds maintain a brand quality in a decentralized world?
39:50: Desert Island NFT
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*Web2 and Community*
“I didn’t want to be in the stage, I wanted to be on the floor, in the mosh pit with everyone else, and the microphone gets passed around.”
“If there is any web2 company that I feel is sympathetic to what is happening in web3 and decentralized, but really embodies that spirit. I think it’s us”
“In telling someone else a story we are telling a little bit of ours”
“As the tide rises, we lift all the boats together.”
“To think that every single day I might lose this company entirely to the community is electrifying”
“All signs point in that direction. They’ve tried so hard to make it the other way for the last 10-15 years and it caused a lot of distressed and made me unhappy.”
*Community and Ownership*
“We’ve always endowed upon the community this sense of ownership, they’ve always felt like they own this brand.”
“When young people are getting our logo tattooed on them, it’s not that they are a fan of me, they feel like the brand belongs to them.”
*Becoming Immortal*
“As an entrepreneur if people are alongside you saying ‘I don’t work for you, I am not your fan, we are all in this together we are all equally invested’ I feel invincible.”
“What the brand is and the community is, is very special and unique in history and I don’t ever want that to die.”
“I feel like the brand is immortal because it’s not just me, it’s not just these community members, it’ll get passed onto generations. The technology lives forever so the brand lives forever.“
*How did Bobby first get into NFTs and what helped him understand them?*
*On brand building*
“Brands require time and discipline, passion and patience, and the ability to maintain that passion long term.”
“I’m not interested yet in calling Adam Bomb Squad a brand. I call the Hundreds a brand because we have been around for 18 years and to me, that’s still not nearly enough.”
*Building for t...
In Episode 5 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis Ohanian (@alexisohanian) chat with ThankYouX (@ThankYouX) in Miami during Art Basel. ThankYouX, also known as Ryan, is an artist whose work blends both art and technology. Throughout the episode you'll hear about how this intersection of art and tech is playing out, what's possible for a new generation of artists, the future of digital fashion, and more much. You'll also hear about Ryan's journey diving into NFTs and what his future plans are.
Big thanks to Melissa (@melissa), Marya, Lulu, Kenyatta, Unrvld, and the 776 team for helping to put an incredible live event together.
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02:25: How did Ryan get into NFTs?
04:15: When did Ryan see "the Matrix" and what convinced him?
05:08: What gave Ryan the conviction to dive in?
09:45: How is Art Basel different this year with new artists than previous years?
12:25: Alexis's experience with web2 vs. web3
13:58: What helped Ryan understand blockchain?
14:13: What's the traditional art world like for an artist?
15:29: NFT communities
16:00: What's coming for NFTs?
16:20: What is Ryan up to in Art Basel?
16:45: Next generation of artists
18:20: More about digital fashion
19:25: NFTs as a technology
24:45: NFTs and Virtual Reality
26:35: If you were stuck on an island which NFT would you bring?
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- Show Notes -
*Ryan and NFTs*
How did Ryan get into NFTs?
"I have always tried to figure out how to marry my paintings with digital stuff"
'The Matrix moment'
"I just thought wow, this is the future."
The conviction
"I am constantly looking for a marriage between art and tech. I really truly was diving into it. I consider founders of tech companies artists because they are creating something from nothing."
*NFT Artists and Basel*
Punk vibes for NFT Artists?
"This is now becoming a mainstream moment where some of those punk bands are signing to a major label and are taking off."
How is Art Basel different now than it is most years?
"There is way more traffic now."
"Our goal in the NFT space is to make it as welcoming and non intimidating as possible."
"The art world is very intimidating, and they treat you like you don't belong. With web3 we have the chance to show people that they do belong, and they are welcome."
*Benefits of NFTs*
Traditional Art vs NFTs
"Maybe the artist sells his piece for $10,000 but the auction house is selling it for $100,000. But the artists isn't seeing any of it."
"I saw that and thought it was genius. It's true if you have a sale whether it's lower than the primary or not you still get paid"
Community
"The fact that you have a community and you all make money together, it becomes this unofficial business where you are all cheering for each other it's amazing"
*What's coming?*
Digital Fashion
"I ...
In Episode 4 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis Ohanian (@alexisohanian) chat with Noah Davis (@NonFungibleNoah) of Christie's. Noah is the former Head of Online Sales for contemporary art at Christie's, but is now primarily focused on NFTs and crypto related digital art projects. Noah discusses how he first got into NFTs, and how he was able to convince a 200+ year old company to begin auctioning NFTs this year. TZ, Alexis, and him also discuss a bit of art history, how NFTs align incentives between artists and curators/collectors, and the future of smart contracts in the art world. This wide ranging discussion shows how NFTs are starting to bridge both the fine art world and the crypto community.
Links Mentioned in this Episode
Timestamps
00:30: Noah Davis intro
01:20: How did Noah convince Christie's to get into NFTs?
02:30: How did Noah first get into NFTs and what helped him understand them?
04:20: What is the future of NFTs in the art world?
06:50: Art Basel NFT prediction?
11:30: What was the internal process on convincing Christie's to do a project with OpenSea?
14:08: wen christie's dao?
16:12: What was the process like of promoting Beeple's sale on Discord?
19:40: What is "absurdist post-war French theater" and why did he study it in school?
24:00: Secondary sales in a world of smart contracts
28:40: Future hope for artist and smart contracts
29:50: Working with artists compared to working with collectors
32:48: Noah's experience in the NFT space
33:34: If you were stranded on an island which NFT would you take from your collection? What about anyone's NFT collection?
Mentions
Show Notes
Who is Noah Davis?
Getting into NFTs and bringing them to Christie's
How did Noah first get into NFTs?
Bringing NFTs to Christie’s
How did Noah's college degree in English with a focus on Absurdist post war french theater play a roll in Noah's love for NFTs?
NFTs and Art
What is the future of NFTs in the traditional art world?
In episode 3 of Probably Nothing TZ and Alexis Ohanian chat with Keith Grossman, President of TIME. They talk about Keith's personal journey into NFTs and how he brought such a new technology to such a traditional and timeless brand. Keith shares some remarkable stories about the power of the web3 community, and TZ and Alexis answer some tricky questions from Keith about the future of brands, sponsorships, and media. The group discusses web3 and web2 comparisons, especially with Reddit, and talk about where web3 is headed. This episode is definitely worth your TIME ;)
Links Mentioned in this Episode
Timestamps
01:09: IP in the NFT space
02:30: Reddit vs web3
04:15: Mr. Splashy Pants
06:00: Ownership
09:00: The Power of POAPS
11:00: How did Keith convince Time to do an NFT?
15:15: Why did Keith drop a 1 of 1 collection and begin to accept crypto as a payment at TIME?
18:59: Long-term vs short-term thinking
23:25: How did Keith get to where he is?
27:15: Where should Keith take TIME Pieces?
28:50: What has Keith learned in the past five weeks?
29:45: Keith's craziest web3 story
35:08: Rewards for kindness in web3
36:08: Keith's tricky question for Alexis and TZ
38:15: Alexis's response
41:25: Your identity and PFPs - why someone would turn down $9.5 million for their PFP NFT
43:40: How did Keith get into NFTs - especially as a boomer ;)?
48:20: NFT Art vs. PFP
50:35: What are three things Keith would suggest to a new person getting into NFTs?
55:20: If Keith was stuck on an island which NFT would he bring?
The podcast currently has 12 episodes available.