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Product Debt: The Hidden Drag on Innovation


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In this episode of "How Many CTOs Does It Take?" podcast, hosts Scott Porad and Brad Hefta-Gaub dive into the concept of product debt: what it is, how it differs from technical debt, and why it matters.

They unpack how hidden or forgotten product features can quietly slow down innovation, complicate modernization efforts, and create pitfalls when deciding whether to refactor or rewrite. With real-world stories, from duplicate onboarding flows to forgotten VIP requirements, they illustrate how product debt can entangle engineering teams and impact business decisions.

Along the way, Scott and Brad explore:

  • The fine line between product debt and technical debt
  • Why modernization efforts often uncover forgotten landmines
  • The risks of rewriting from scratch versus stepwise refactoring
  • How product and engineering leaders can spot and address product debt
  • Why acknowledging product requirements (even undocumented ones) is essential

Whether you're a CTO, product leader, or engineer, this conversation offers practical insights into managing complexity, making smarter trade-offs, and leading modernization initiatives with eyes wide open.

  • 00:00 Introduction and Host Welcome
  • 01:18 Defining Product Debt
  • 04:25 Examples of Product Debt
  • 05:51 Technical Debt vs. Product Debt
  • 10:20 Challenges in Modernization
  • 18:07 Avoiding Future Issues
  • 18:34 Challenges of Stepwise Refactoring
  • 19:02 The Hubris of Rewriting
  • 20:24 Undocumented Requirements
  • 21:42 Real-World Examples of Refactoring
  • 24:16 The Complexity of Tech Debt
  • 26:17 Rewriting vs. Refactoring Debate
  • 32:39 Empowering Conversations with Product Debt
  • 33:28 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

Resources:

  • How Many CTOs Pod: https://howmanyctospod.com
  • Scott Porad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottporad/
  • Brad Hefta-Gaub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradheftagaub/

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How Many CTOsBy Brad Hefta-Gaub & Scott Porad