Production Under Pressure

Production Under Pressure, Episode 6, with Jay Holland and Jordan Galjour, Employee Benefits Senior Sales Rep

Jordan Galjour came straight out of the marketing program at Nicholls State into group insurance, without knowing what a broker was. A sales competition and job fair at Kennesaw State led him to a rookie training program, six years in Dallas, and calling on middle-market brokers who had been in the business for 10, 15 and 20 years. Last year he was named Rep of the Year.

Host Jay Holland was one of the brokers Jordan called on early, over coffee in Alamo Heights on Jordan's first trip to San Antonio. The two look back on that meeting and on what it took to earn trust in a market where brokers expected a new rep to make a splash and leave.

Jordan's best prospecting question is simple: who gave you your first opportunity? Veteran brokers light up telling that story, and it opens the door to the real ask, will you be that person for me. He explains why getting to know people comes before business, why the broker's paycheck is in the carrier rep's hands, and his no-but rule: if he has to bring a broker a no, it comes with another solution. He promises his broker partners he will never leave them on read.

The conversation turns to growth. Jordan credits a great manager, doing the small, monotonous things every single day, and being coachable, treating constructive criticism as a sign that someone cares. He gives back by mentoring the rookie reps who rotate through his office, and remembers the broke years to stay grateful, from a declined card at Panera Bread to getting stuck in a parking garage.

His why is his parents: a father who shrimped the Gulf in the summer and did carpentry in the winter, a mother who taught school and swimming lessons, and the Catholic school tuition they fought to pay. Jay shares his own lean single-income years and his story of real pressure in 2008. Together they cover ego versus humility, why comfortable jobs rarely pay, how fatherhood reshaped Jordan's priorities, and the day-one advice he would give a rookie rep: be yourself, and don't product puke.

Practical Takeaways

Ask who gave them their first opportunity. It gets veteran brokers talking about their own story, and it sets up your ask.

Get to know the person first. Business comes up naturally once there is a relationship.

Bring a no-but, never just a no. Pair every no with another solution.

Never leave a broker on read. A Friday-night call means something is going wrong; call back within an hour or two.

Be coachable. Constructive criticism means someone sees more in you than you see in yourself.

Do the monotonous things every day. Consistent follow-up on every RFP and group builds the book.

Know your why. A deep-rooted reason outlasts motivational videos.

Stay humble and grateful. Talent without humility and work goes to waste.

San Antonio Video podcast production by Peachtree Rose Marketing.

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In Episode 5 of Production Under Pressure, host Jay Holland sits down with Steve Koronczok (aka "Kronzi") for an unfiltered, actionable conversation about career pivots, sales resilience, and radical authenticity in high-stakes B2B environments.
From Livestrong to Halliburton Rigs
Steve's career began in voluntary benefits and high-volume enrollments. At the peak of the Livestrong Foundation's popularity, he was cold-calling Fortune 500 decision-makers and flying to headquarters like Sears Roebuck in Chicago to present cancer protection plans. When market shifts and the AIG bailouts disrupted that model, he pivoted to oil and gas as a directional driller for Halliburton. Working rigs across Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana, he learned high-pressure execution, on-the-fly math, and real team camaraderie.
Translating Rig Lessons into Sales Success
After the 2015 oil downturn, Steve returned to commercial insurance with USI Insurance Services. Bringing the discipline he built on the rigs, he earned "Peak Producer" status in his first year and nearly doubled his production in year two. Jay and Steve break down why the "insurance dork" stereotype fails today. Steve built a large book of business across South and Central Texas, from New Braunfels to the Rio Grande Valley, by showing up in jeans and boots, listening closely, and treating decision-makers with straightforward respect.
Overcoming Slumps and Building Trust
Steve opens up about the pipeline slump he faced during the COVID-19 lockdowns, when his face-to-face selling style was put on hold. He shares how he stayed focused, managed his existing book, and reignited momentum by closing a five-year prospect through persistence and relationship-building. He also explains why, in a hard market of rising renewals, delivering bad news early and honestly builds far more trust than hiding numbers until the last minute.
Key Takeaways
Authenticity Beats Jargon: Executives and CFOs spot fake rapport instantly. Drop the script, stay true to your character, and focus on genuine connection.
High-Pressure Discipline Translates Anywhere: The detail-oriented mindset of steering directional wells applies directly to managing complex B2B accounts and risk strategies.
Cold Calling as Service: Outreach works best when you believe in the value you offer and frame it around educating the client, not forcing a transaction.
Deliver Bad News Early: When renewals spike, calling clients right away with facts and proactive solutions reinforces your role as a trusted advisor.

Digging Out of a Slump: Focus on one positive action at a time, whether structured outreach, skills training, or re-engaging long-term leads.
Listen More Than You Speak: Let clients fully share their challenges before offering solutions. Active listening reveals what you need to solve complex problems.

Whether you're a commercial producer, small business owner, or sales professional, this episode offers practical insight on career resilience, relationship building, and professional growth.

San Antonio video podcast production by Peachtree Rose Marketing

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In this collaboration episode of the San Antonio Podcasting Podcast, host Matt Nelson interviews Jay Holland, practice leader at USI and host of the Production Under Pressure podcast. This isn't a typical sales coaching podcast or simple professional development. This is about real life issues that effect producers.

If you work in sales, consulting, real estate, financial services, or commercial brokerage, you know the pressure to perform never lets up. But what happens when the LinkedIn rose-colored glasses come off and you're left facing an unexpected slump, imposter syndrome, or burnout?

Jay brings more than 15 years of hard-won experience to the table: 11 as a high-performing producer and four leading teams. He unpacks what it really takes to survive and thrive as a producer under pressure, from the psychological toll of a 15% industry survival rate to adapting to AI tools, market shifts, and rising client expectations.

*WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE*
- The Genesis of Production Under Pressure: Why sales professionals need an honest space to talk about mental health, career dips, and adversity.
- Broker vs. Consultant: How to escape the "middleman" trap and prove undeniable value to your clients.
- Overcoming the "Year 10 Dip": Pushing through imposter syndrome when a high-performing streak suddenly stalls.
- The Pareto Principle in Sales: Why putting 80% of your effort into your unique strengths beats copying someone else's playbook.
- The Competency Quadrants and AI: Why real-time adaptability and critical thinking matter more than ever in an automated world.
- Work-Life Balance in High-Stakes Careers: How top producers can succeed without sacrificing family, marriage, or well-being.
- Jay's Career Journey: Lessons from D1 football, catastrophe adjusting, semiconductor sales, and employee benefits consulting.

*KEY TAKEAWAYS*
1. The 15% Success Rate: Commercial insurance brokerage carries an 85% failure rate over five years. Lasting requires mental resilience, managing intrusive thoughts, and weathering the bad years that follow early success.
2. Partner, Not Vendor: Great producers don't just shop for the lowest price. They act as strategic consultants, offer preventative solutions, and have the thick skin to challenge clients when needed.
3. Authenticity Over Emulation: Newer producers often stumble trying to copy top performers. Find your core strength, whether that's cold calling, networking, or deep technical knowledge, and invest 80% of your energy there.
4. The AI and Critical Thinking Trap: AI is a powerful efficiency tool, but leaning on it too heavily can weaken the creative problem-solving and adaptability you need in high-stakes client conversations.
5. Protect Your Life Outside the Job: Success shouldn't cost you your family, health, or relationships. Know when money and status hit the point of diminishing returns.

Whether you're a seasoned sales leader, a new producer finding your footing, or a business owner building a growth team, this episode delivers practical wisdom on resilience, leadership, and long-term career sustainability.

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In high-stakes B2B sales and employee benefits brokerage, clear communication between co-producers isn't just a nice-to-have—it directly impacts your pipeline, client retention, and revenue. When two producers share a book of business, post-meeting debriefs can easily turn into defensive arguments if criticism isn't handled correctly.

In this clip from Production Under Pressure, host Jay Holland poses a critical question to veteran producers Matt Allison and Terry Laxson: What matters more—delivering constructive criticism in an easily digestible way, or being tough enough to accept hard feedback no matter how it's delivered?

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THE MECHANICS OF HIGH-PERFORMANCE SALES COACHING
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When running mid-market accounts as a team, every client interaction and prospect meeting serves as an immediate learning opportunity. However, sales professionals naturally carry strong egos. Accepting feedback from a peer or close business partner can feel personal if the mindset isn't aligned on mutual growth.

Key operational insights from this clip include:

▸ SEPARATING EGO FROM BUSINESS — High-performing partners view constructive criticism as an investment in the shared book of business rather than a personal insult.

▸ DELIVERY VS. MESSAGE INTEGRITY — How a message is delivered determines whether it gets implemented or lost in defensiveness. Effective partners coach without tearing each other down.

▸ PRE-MEETING PREPARATION OVER POST-MEETING REGRET — Role-playing scenarios, objection handling, and messaging alignment in the car before entering the boardroom eliminates mid-pitch friction and minimizes the need for heavy post-meeting corrections.

▸ MUTUAL ACCOUNTABILITY — Long-term sales co-selling models rely on both partners holding equal standards of preparation, execution, and communication.

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BUILDING SUSTAINABLE SALES PARTNERSHIPS IN EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
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The insurance brokerage industry is historically known for isolated, single-producer grind. Co-producing requires deep professional trust, aligned ethics, and a shared commitment to long-term client service. When partners commit to radical honesty and open feedback, they build a more resilient pipeline, protect their accounts against market turnover, and deliver superior value to mid-market decision-makers.

Watch the full episode of Production Under Pressure to discover how Matt Allison and Terry Laxson developed a successful 50/50 co-producer model, managed commission splitting, and created a sustainable work-life balance in a high-pressure sales environment.

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ABOUT PRODUCTION UNDER PRESSURE
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Production Under Pressure is a candid, peer-to-peer podcast hosted by Jay Holland, exploring the human cost, mental edge, and daily survival required to build a career in employee benefits brokerage and insurance production. The show strips away corporate highlight reels to deliver honest, unscripted conversations with real producers.

San Antonio Video podcast production by Peachtree Rose Marketing.

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Jay Holland sits down with Ryan Saladino to talk about how she built her career in employee benefits and insurance sales.

Ryan started in an entry-level secretarial and CRM support role. She moved into account management, validated as a top producer at USI, then made the jump to the carrier side. In this episode she gives an honest look at what it actually takes to win in complex B2B sales.

She and Jay get into surviving high-pressure corporate environments, building real sales confidence, and using authenticity to win accounts in an industry that's still mostly men. They also dig into the gap between producers and service teams, why overpromising creates friction, and how working both sides makes you a better consultant.

What you'll learn

Confidence beats product knowledge. Facts matter, but buyers follow confidence. A confident presenter who brings in an expert will outperform a nervous one with perfect answers.

Work both sides of the house. Producers who understand what account managers deal with hand off cleaner, promise less, and keep clients longer.

Winning in a male-dominated field. Women often have an edge getting in the door and starting the relationship. The trick is staying approachable while holding firm boundaries, and not talking yourself out of the room.

You're selling an idea, not a product. Insurance isn't something you hand someone. You're selling trust and a promise. Long term, clients stay for you, not for the logo on your card.

Take care of your service team. Say thank you. Small gestures build the internal partnerships that protect your accounts when something goes wrong.

Broker side vs carrier side. On the broker side you're juggling vendors and strategy. On the carrier side you go deep and become the expert.

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Champions are obsessed with not losing.

What makes a top producer different from everyone else in the room? Jay Holland sits down with Scott Foley, one of San Antonio's premier insurance producers, to pull it apart piece by piece.

Scott started out in tech and medical device sales at ADP and Stryker. He has spent close to a decade building a dominant book of business in commercial benefits and insurance. In this conversation he shares what it actually takes to win in middle market sales.

Jay and Scott get into the pressure top producers put on themselves. They talk about why hating to lose drives more excellence than loving to win ever will. They also cover how Scott walked away from cold calling and built a pipeline that runs more than 95 percent on referrals.

If you own a small business, sell for a living, or lead a growing team, this one is for you.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN

The mindset of a top producer. The best salespeople put more pressure on themselves than any manager or quota ever could. That pressure comes from hating to lose, not from loving to win.

Teach, do not feature drop. Walk into a meeting as an expert who explains concepts. That beats a generic slide deck and corporate jargon every time.

Partner, not vendor. Refuse the vendor label. It is how you earn peer to peer respect with executives and keep from getting swapped out on price alone.

The After Action Report. Look at your wins and your losses with clear eyes. Give yourself 24 hours to feel it. Then move to the next opportunity.

Referrals over cold calls. Scott built an ultra targeted referral pipeline on Center of Influence networks and strategic marketing partnerships.

Boundaries and burnout. Leave the pressure at the office. Protect your family as your real support system. Step away on purpose so you can do this for the long haul.

EPISODE BREAKDOWN

00:00 Preview and the hate to lose sales mindset 01:05 Early career: cutting his teeth at ADP and Stryker Spine 08:00 Internal pressure versus external pressure 15:00 The After Action Report: processing big losses and moving on 24:30 Continuous education and mastering your craft 30:00 Why storytelling and concept selling beat slideshows 38:00 A painful lesson in preparation: getting called out in the OR 43:30 Work life balance, family boundaries, and preventing burnout 57:30 Modern prospecting and a 95 percent referral pipeline 01:06:00 Advice for young producers: know your worth and stop being a vendor

WHO THIS IS FOR

Sales professionals in competitive B2B markets. Agency owners and team members. Business owners who sell their own work. Anyone who wants to perform at a high level without burning out doing it.

CONNECT

Host: Jay Holland https://www.linkedin.com/in/holland54/ https://productionunderpressure.com

Guest: Scott Foley https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-foley-8126a01/

Topics: commercial insurance, B2B sales, sales strategy, sales mindset, peak performance, middle market, account management, referral marketing, COI networking, sales leadership, San Antonio business, Texas entrepreneurs.

San Antonio Video podcast production by Peachtree Rose Marketing. https://peachtreerosemarketing.com

Welcome to the pilot episode of Production Under Pressure — the podcast for the person behind the production numbers, hosted by Jay Holland. In the high-stakes world of employee benefits brokerage, the pressure to produce never lets up. Jay Holland has lived that grind firsthand: 15+ years in the industry, 11 as a producer and four leading a practice in San Antonio. Today the demands on insurance producers have hit a turning point that's left the industry on the cusp of a crisis. Being a successful benefits broker isn't just about relationships and product anymore. It now takes near-clinical mastery — underwriting, data analytics, pharmacy contracts, self-funding, point solutions, cost containment, and wellness programs. And that's only the technical side. To even earn a client, producers grind through endless prospecting, cold calls, drop-ins, meeting prep, and constant rejection — often against ten other brokers doing the exact same thing. Even when you win, years of work can vanish overnight from a carrier issue, a team error, a vendor mistake, an acquisition, or executive turnover. There's no shortage of shows on sales training and product education. Production Under Pressure was built for something different: you, the producer. WHAT THIS SHOW IS ABOUT • Person over product — the human behind the production numbers, not the pitch. • Mental resilience & survival — keeping your edge, handling burnout, and weathering hard rejection. • Candid, unscripted conversations — with rookies, seasoned veterans, producers who left the seat, and the families who support them. • Shared experience — whatever the loss or struggle, someone's been there, survived it, and come out stronger. Whether you're a rookie finding your footing, a veteran carrying a heavy book, a practice leader guiding a team, or a family member trying to understand the toll of the job — this platform exists to support and sustain the people who drive this industry. Let's survive — and thrive — together. Welcome to Production Under Pressure. CHAPTERS 00:00 – Welcome to Production Under Pressure with Jay Holland 00:25 – The changing landscape of employee benefits brokerage 00:50 – Beyond sales: technical demands, self-funding, analytics & underwriting 01:15 – The prospecting reality: rejection, competition, and the grind 01:45 – Losing business overnight: the factors you can't control 02:15 – Why this podcast exists: mental edge and producer survival 02:55 – Real stories, unscripted conversations, and sustaining the industry KEY TAKEAWAYS • The producer's job has shifted — success now takes clinical precision across self-funding, analytics, and underwriting, not just relationship-building. • A book of business is fragile — clients can be lost in an instant to forces outside your control, so mental resilience is what carries you long-term. • Peer support beats highlight reels — longevity comes from honest talk about failure, strain, and mental health. Learn more at Production Under Pressure: https://productionunderpressure.com Video podcast produced in San Antonio by Peachtree Rose Marketing. #ProductionUnderPressure #EmployeeBenefits #InsuranceProducers #ProducerLife #BenefitsBroker #InsuranceSales #SalesMentalHealth #BurnoutPrevention #PracticeLeader #InsurancePodcast #JayHolland #SanAntonioPodcast #PodcastStudioSATX #SanAntonioPodcasting #PeachtreeRoseMarketing