Project 2025 has become a surprising focal point of the U.S. presidential race. But who exactly is behind it, and why are they targeting trans rights? To help break down this radical plan for reshaping American life, Imara talks with two experts who have been tracking the policy and politics of Project 2025. First, she’s joined by ProPublica investigative reporter Andy Kroll who explains what the Heritage Foundation is, how they’re training a new generation of party loyalists, and why this could fundamentally alter the way our government works. Next, she discusses Project 2025’s focus on undermining progress towards gender equity with Sharita Gruberg, the Vice President for Economic Justice at the National Partnership for Women & Families.

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