Hailey and I talk about anti-shifters, our favorite meditations, how we don't know what the void state is, minishifting, how baby shifters are shifting faster than us, counting in shifting methods, how shifttok drama can be bad for the community, and our different scripts. (For some reason there was a clip that did not upload correctly, so I had to add it in after I already published it. The audio is correct on Anchor and Youtube, but not on Spotify)