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Episode 163:
In this episode, we speak with Stephan Kerby, co-founder of Mindscape Psychedelic Institute and author of Trauma-Informed 5-MeO-DMT Facilitation, to explore the rising interest in 5-MeO-DMT and the importance of approaching it with care. We discuss Stephan’s personal healing journey, how he came to facilitate this work, and why trauma-informed preparation, screening, and integration are so essential. Together, we unpack the differences between dose-dependent experiences, non-dual states, “offline” experiences, reactivations, and the potential risks of destabilization. We also explore harm reduction, the role of trained facilitators, informed consent, and the importance of asking the right safety questions before engaging with this medicine. This is a thoughtful conversation on ethics, responsibility, and healing in psychedelic practice.

About Stephan:
Stephan Kerby, known simply as Kerby, is a leading voice in the evolving field of psychedelic facilitation, education, and integration. As the founder of Mindscape Psychedelic Institute, he trains facilitators, therapists, and guides in trauma-informed and nondual approaches to working with 5-MeO-DMT and other entheogens. Kerby’s work bridges science, spirituality, and embodiment—offering a grounded, integrity-based framework for those called to serve in the psychedelic space. His teaching emphasizes that facilitation is not about creating mystical experiences but cultivating the safety, presence, and awareness that make true transformation possible. Through his books—The 5-MeO-DMT Facilitation Manual, The 5-MeO-DMT Embodiment Protocol, and the forthcoming Field Notes from the Infinite—Kerby invites readers into a living dialogue between awakening and integration. His writing and courses challenge facilitators to embody wisdom, not perform it; to guide from experience, not ideology. A respected educator and sought-after speaker, Kerby’s mission is to raise the standard of psychedelic facilitation worldwide—reminding us that how we hold space matters, and who we are within that space matters even more.

Connect with Stephan:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kerby.healing/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mindscapeinstitute/
Website: https://mindscapeinstitute.org/

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About Susan Guner:
Susan Guner is a holistic psychotherapist with a mindfulness-based approach grounded in Transpersonal Psychology, focusing on trauma-informed, community-centric processes that offer a broader understanding of human potential and well-being.

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