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What really drives elite performance — discipline, self-criticism, or something deeper? In this episode, I explore psychological flexibility, self-compassion, and high performance with Olympian Toby Jenkins.
In this episode of Compassion in a T-Shirt, I sit down with Toby Jenkins — Olympian, entrepreneur, speaker, and coach — to explore leadership, high performance, and the inner world that shapes both.
Toby is also my cousin, so this was a really special conversation for me. He shares a deeply personal and powerful account of his Olympic journey, describing the yin–yang of high performance — the highs and lows, pride and disappointment, confidence and doubt, and even moments of shame.
We talk openly about self-criticism — how it can drive performance, but also how it can become harsh and unhelpful. Toby reflects on the intense pressure of elite sport, and how that inner voice shaped his experience along the way.
One of the most powerful moments in the conversation is a story from his early days at the Australian Institute of Sport, where a simple act of kindness — a teammate offering him an old team t-shirt — had a profound and lasting impact. It’s a beautiful example of compassion in action.
Toby also shares how discovering Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and the science of psychological flexibility transformed his understanding of mindset. Rather than trying to eliminate stress or control emotions, he now focuses on opening up to discomfort, being present, and taking values-based action.
In our conversation, we explore:
- The double-edged nature of self-criticism in high performance
- Why confidence can be unreliable — and competence is built through reps
- How athletes and leaders can respond differently to pressure, fear, and doubt
- The role of compassion and self-compassion in resilience and growth
- How psychological flexibility applies across sport, business, and everyday life
This is a really rich, practical, and deeply human conversation about what it means to perform, lead, and live well — even when things are tough.
Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome And Guest Intro
01:46 Cousins Reunite On Air
02:39 Olympic Highs And Lows
07:20 AIS Grind And Self Doubt
09:00 Humiliated At Selection Camp
12:25 The T Shirt Kindness Moment
14:55 Pay It Forward Lessons
19:12 Compassion Defined In Practice
21:52 Reframing Coach With Compassion
27:30 Inner Critic And Pain As Fuel
30:02 When Self Criticism Helps Or Hurts
32:12 Constructive vs Shame Critic
33:22 Owning Pressure Out Loud
35:46 Acceptance Price of Entry
37:27 Finding ACT in Crisis
38:49 Work Identity Wake Up
44:23 Mindset Shift in Leaders
47:08 Confidence vs Competence Reps
53:58 Compassion Validation and Choice
59:17 Wholeness Yin Yang Wrap
01:00:36 Closing Thanks and Farewell
Links:
Toby Jenkin’s website:
https://www.tobyajenkins.com/
Toby’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobyjenkins/
If you would like to learn more about compassion focused therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here: https://www.ausapress.com/p/the-gifts-of-compassion-how-to-understand-and-overcome-suffering/
Say hi on social:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drstansteindl
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/StanSteindl
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr_stan_steindl/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stan-steindl-150a5264/
Website: https://www.stansteindl.com/
YouTube Video URL: https://youtu.be/KczGMCNSorQ
*Affiliate Disclaimer: Note this description contains affiliate links that allow you to find the items mentioned in this video and support the channel at no cost to you. While this channel may earn minimal sums when the viewer uses the links, the viewer is in no way obligated to use these links. Thank you for your support!
Hashtags:
compassion, selfcompassion, psychologicalflexibility, highperformance, leadership, mentalhealth
By Dr Stan SteindlWhat really drives elite performance — discipline, self-criticism, or something deeper? In this episode, I explore psychological flexibility, self-compassion, and high performance with Olympian Toby Jenkins.
In this episode of Compassion in a T-Shirt, I sit down with Toby Jenkins — Olympian, entrepreneur, speaker, and coach — to explore leadership, high performance, and the inner world that shapes both.
Toby is also my cousin, so this was a really special conversation for me. He shares a deeply personal and powerful account of his Olympic journey, describing the yin–yang of high performance — the highs and lows, pride and disappointment, confidence and doubt, and even moments of shame.
We talk openly about self-criticism — how it can drive performance, but also how it can become harsh and unhelpful. Toby reflects on the intense pressure of elite sport, and how that inner voice shaped his experience along the way.
One of the most powerful moments in the conversation is a story from his early days at the Australian Institute of Sport, where a simple act of kindness — a teammate offering him an old team t-shirt — had a profound and lasting impact. It’s a beautiful example of compassion in action.
Toby also shares how discovering Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and the science of psychological flexibility transformed his understanding of mindset. Rather than trying to eliminate stress or control emotions, he now focuses on opening up to discomfort, being present, and taking values-based action.
In our conversation, we explore:
- The double-edged nature of self-criticism in high performance
- Why confidence can be unreliable — and competence is built through reps
- How athletes and leaders can respond differently to pressure, fear, and doubt
- The role of compassion and self-compassion in resilience and growth
- How psychological flexibility applies across sport, business, and everyday life
This is a really rich, practical, and deeply human conversation about what it means to perform, lead, and live well — even when things are tough.
Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome And Guest Intro
01:46 Cousins Reunite On Air
02:39 Olympic Highs And Lows
07:20 AIS Grind And Self Doubt
09:00 Humiliated At Selection Camp
12:25 The T Shirt Kindness Moment
14:55 Pay It Forward Lessons
19:12 Compassion Defined In Practice
21:52 Reframing Coach With Compassion
27:30 Inner Critic And Pain As Fuel
30:02 When Self Criticism Helps Or Hurts
32:12 Constructive vs Shame Critic
33:22 Owning Pressure Out Loud
35:46 Acceptance Price of Entry
37:27 Finding ACT in Crisis
38:49 Work Identity Wake Up
44:23 Mindset Shift in Leaders
47:08 Confidence vs Competence Reps
53:58 Compassion Validation and Choice
59:17 Wholeness Yin Yang Wrap
01:00:36 Closing Thanks and Farewell
Links:
Toby Jenkin’s website:
https://www.tobyajenkins.com/
Toby’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobyjenkins/
If you would like to learn more about compassion focused therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here: https://www.ausapress.com/p/the-gifts-of-compassion-how-to-understand-and-overcome-suffering/
Say hi on social:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drstansteindl
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/StanSteindl
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr_stan_steindl/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stan-steindl-150a5264/
Website: https://www.stansteindl.com/
YouTube Video URL: https://youtu.be/KczGMCNSorQ
*Affiliate Disclaimer: Note this description contains affiliate links that allow you to find the items mentioned in this video and support the channel at no cost to you. While this channel may earn minimal sums when the viewer uses the links, the viewer is in no way obligated to use these links. Thank you for your support!
Hashtags:
compassion, selfcompassion, psychologicalflexibility, highperformance, leadership, mentalhealth