Show us how project management skills can help you GM — and vice versa! Phil and Senda are both professionals in various project management offices at this point in their careers, and have a conversation about how those skills work in both places and how you can use one to hone the other.

Also! This is our last show of 2024. We will be on podcasting vacation until the second week of January. Happy holidays, all!

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